Badden wrote:I thought you were a Budd man, Andrey?
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Andrey
Badden wrote:I thought you were a Budd man, Andrey?
Frans wrote:There has been an issue with my shirts more than one time. Once Mr. O'Flynn had forgotten all about the order, even if he had written the date of my next visit down: "Please drop me a mail just a week before your next visit". Then the shirts were made up, but back home the sleeves turned out to be much, much too short and this was some shirts after the initial one. Mr. O'Flynn agreed on sending them back after lengthening the sleeves, but in the end I had to collect them myself. Another time the cloth was out of stock, but you were only told as a reply on your notice of your next visit to London...Kayak81 wrote: The only minor complaint I have about Sean, is that it's been a bit of a challenge dealing with him administratively from a distance. He doesn't always answer emails and he sometimes makes delivery promises over the phone that he can't keep. This is only a problem if you're trying to get a delivery in time for a planned trip to London though, and shouldn't be an issue if you live in the area.
The contact with Mr. O'Flynn is very pleasant, though and in the end I am satisfied with the shirts that were made up.
But it has proven to be quite an adventure. Perhaps this is part of the true bespoke experience
Non-glued collars and cuffs... other makers who use them are not different in this regard.stephenm wrote:Difficult to iron the collar and cuffs, there seems to be a little to much fabric, leaving a fold or crease.
Same experience here. Sometimes he answers, sometimes he does not at all.Kayak81 wrote: I sent a few emails to Sean (...), and all of these were ignored.
Same here. Once I was asked to come back one hour later, as they were still working on the shirt.Kayak81 wrote: he didn't actually complete the shirt until midday of the day I arrived in London.
No mistake. If you order more than one shirt, your card is charged before delivery or collect. In my case I was only charged for 1 shirt. True, you don't get any notice, but you'll find outKayak81 wrote:A month later though, I found that my credit card had been charged for an additional 4 shirts (...) I suspect that the charge to my card was put through by mistake
You must have called him. He did not send my shirts back, although that was what we he had told me he would do.Kayak81 wrote: Despite assurances that he would send the shirts out right away, it took Sean 3 weeks to send them to me.
I did got apologies several times. But some minor additional costs resulting from a wrong shirt (e.g. sending it back registered) have been for me so far. Others might have it collected when it is their mistake, not yours.Kayak81 wrote: If this was actually the case, then I would have been happier if he had simply admitted the mistake, and given me a reasonable timeframe for delivery.
There is no guarantee that things will go better. New shirts might result in new issuesKayak81 wrote: I had originally planned to place one or two large orders once the fit was dialed in, but now I think it’s better to proceed with caution.
Dear Mister Alden, could you please elaborate on the masquerading? My shirtmaker showed me the individual pattern for me. Is this just re-interpreted into some main measurements and then sent to a factory?alden wrote: I am not much in favor of minimums or industrial MTM masquerading as true artisan level bespoke.
Thanks for a very interesting insight. Where the Architect of the garment uses outworkers whose exactness and craftsmanship is neither under his supervision nor his control...it begs the question as to whether all the measuring, marking and pattern making is nothing more than show business for the punters? These experiences have all been well documented for tailoring and shoe making also. There is nothing better than the person who measures you, makes for you , adjusts for you and finishes for you, taking a pride that he or she has taken full responsibility for leaving you satisfied and pleased with their work. It looks like that is what you will receive in Paris. I hope it works out for you.After ten years of having had shirts made in London, over which time I tried almost all the shirt makers, I have given up because I've experienced all the same problems that other members outline in this thread. In summary the shirtmakers were charming, the shirts were average at best, and the service was consistently, unbelievably bad.
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