Fox Brothers White Flannels

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Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:06 am

The Fox white flannels certainly are tempting, but my only hesitation is when I would actually wear them, particularly in the heavier weight. Lighter weight as a Spring option?

Oh, and neither grass court tennis nor cricket is all that popular in that States. :>)
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:39 pm

jscherrer wrote:Oh, and neither grass court tennis nor cricket is all that popular in that States. :>)
Us English persist with both without being terribly good at either!

I have a pair made up in the 10oz, and I'm waiting for suitable occasion to wear them. It will be occasional use as I'm not sure about the longevity of such a lightweight flannel.
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:26 pm

Let me know your experience with the lighter weight flannels C&A. I may yet pull the trigger and get a pair.
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:58 pm

davidhuh wrote: which one are you talking about? I have A1285/88, made trousers and a DB waistcoat, both beautiful. There was a lighter flannel in the same color, A1290/77m, which I used for another waistcoat.
Dear David,
treasure your heavy white flannels even more because The Merchant Fox only sells the lighter worsted A1290/77 now.
jscherrer wrote:The Fox white flannels certainly are tempting, but my only hesitation is when I would actually wear them, particularly in the heavier weight.
When I first wore white flannels I thought they were a "specialty" item with a very limited role. More recently, I took to wear them often, as a substitute for grey flannels. I particularly like to wear them outdoors in winter when it´s sunny, with a blond Saxony tweed jacket or with a heavy serge DB blazer.
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:22 am

Update: apparently by popular demand, The Merchant Fox is making available again its heavier 14 oz "cricket" flannel. I truly believe that every man interested in clothes should have in his wardrobe at least one pair of trousers made in this white woolen flannel.
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:48 am

hectorm wrote:Update: apparently by popular demand, The Merchant Fox is making available again its heavier 14 oz "cricket" flannel. I truly believe that every man interested in clothes should have in his wardrobe at least one pair of trousers made in this white woolen flannel.
Do Fox only has in White?.Ivory would be equally versatile.

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hectorm wrote:Update: apparently by popular demand, The Merchant Fox is making available again its heavier 14 oz "cricket" flannel. I truly believe that every man interested in clothes should have in his wardrobe at least one pair of trousers made in this white woolen flannel.
When they told me the cloth would be back in 8 weeks time, I started counting. Now that it is back, I start wondering whether I would actually get to wear my white trousers. Even a 10-minutes bus journey, trying to avoid the seats with rests of chicken wings, would be a challenge. Maybe to read a book at home of for a brisk 5-minutes walk before it starts raining... :D
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Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:09 am

Frederic Leighton wrote: I start wondering whether I would actually get to wear my white trousers. Even a 10-minutes bus journey, trying to avoid the seats with rests of chicken wings, would be a challenge.
Dear Frederic,
"Rests of chicken wings" should not be used in the same sentence together with "white flannel trousers".
While I agree they are definitely not commuting trousers (public or private), I'm sure you'll find a couple of sunny weekends each winter per many years to come which will prove you right every time (if you make the decision to go ahead before this heavy white flannel disappears again).
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Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:09 am

hectorm wrote:While I agree they are definitely not commuting trousers (public or private), I'm sure you'll find a couple of sunny weekends each winter per many years to come which will prove you right every time (if you make the decision to go ahead before this heavy white flannel disappears again).
Thank you, Hectorm. That's what I wanted to hear :D
Would a waistcoat be a useful addition?
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Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:12 am

Frederic Leighton wrote:
hectorm wrote:While I agree they are definitely not commuting trousers (public or private), I'm sure you'll find a couple of sunny weekends each winter per many years to come which will prove you right every time (if you make the decision to go ahead before this heavy white flannel disappears again).
Thank you, Hectorm. That's what I wanted to hear :D
Would a waistcoat be a useful addition?
Dear Federico,

I had two waistcoats made, one SB and one DB, in the lighter quality, and I wear them often. The cream waistcoats are the most versatile and elegant ones in my wardrobe. Using the heavy material for a waistcoat would limit its use to winter.
ismailalmurtadza wrote:Do Fox only has in White?.Ivory would be equally versatile.
Dear Ismail,

the colour is indeed ivory, not white.

Cheers, David
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Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:15 pm

davidhuh wrote:
Frederic Leighton wrote:I had two waistcoats made, one SB and one DB, in the lighter quality, and I wear them often. The cream waistcoats are the most versatile and elegant ones in my wardrobe.
Thank you for the feedback, David. What pairings, involving cream trousers and/or cream waistcoat, have you tried? Cream flannel would be a completely new option for me and I'm sure there are plenty of possibilities of use that I'm not aware of. Apart from a blazer (with or without cream waistcoat), I might think of some sport coats (again with or without white waistcoat) in browns, greys or blues.
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:44 am

Frederic Leighton wrote:...What pairings, involving cream trousers and/or cream waistcoat...
I should think that the brown-on-brown large check LL fabric would go well with it as well as a mid-grey herringbone.
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Frederic Leighton wrote:
davidhuh wrote:
Frederic Leighton wrote:What pairings, involving cream trousers and/or cream waistcoat, have you tried? Cream flannel would be a completely new option for me and I'm sure there are plenty of possibilities of use that I'm not aware of. Apart from a blazer (with or without cream waistcoat), I might think of some sport coats (again with or without white waistcoat) in browns, greys or blues.
Dear Federico,

SB waistcoat: goes with anything from the blue and grey department. When I travel for work and intend to go to a concert, theatre or opera, I'm wearing a dark blue or dark grey suit during the day. In the evening, I change my shirt and add the waistcoat. I have also worn it with my corduroy suit.
With tweed coats, I would rather use a cashmere waistcoat, but flannels work as well.

DB waistcoat: this version is a bit more festive than the SB.

The ivory flannel trousers go well with all LL flannels I have. I may add the waistcoat or not, depending on temperature. This is perfect for lazy Saturdays/Sundays, visiting a museum, smoking a cigar, afternoon tea or tea dance. I would rather combine it with cashmere than with a sports coat but thinking about your blue donegal - this could work very well, too.

Cheers, David
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:09 am

Luca wrote:I should think that the brown-on-brown large check LL fabric would go well with it [...]
Luca, we may have the same image from AA in mind when thinking about this combination - the guy in tennis attire, cream flannel trousers and brown large-houndstooth coat. The LL brown houndstooth is already in my tailor's shop...
davidhuh wrote:SB waistcoat: [...]
DB waistcoat: [...]
The ivory flannel trousers [...]
Thank you, David. Extremely helpful as usual. All copied and pasted in a safe place for future reference. Re cream flannels and Donegal tweed coat, I always have this image of Rudolph Valentino in my mind... (note the socks matched with the tie)

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