Does Anyone Know If These Two Books Are The Same?

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Cufflink79
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Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:04 pm

Saw these on Amazon.

Bespoke By James Sherwood
http://www.amazon.com/Bespoke-Mens-Styl ... 738&sr=1-1

Savile Row By James Sherwood
http://www.amazon.com/Savile-Row-Tailor ... 18&sr=1-11

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Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:32 am

Yes they are. Savile Row is the "original" if you will, for British publication, and Bespoke is the American release. Same inside though as far as I've heard.
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Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:45 am

I received a copy of the "Savile Row" version today. It is big and looks to be very nicely printed and illustrated. Very much a coffee table style book.
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Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:09 pm

dopey wrote:I received a copy of the "Savile Row" version today. It is big and looks to be very nicely printed and illustrated. Very much a coffee table style book.


That's what I like to hear. :D :D

But please don't spoil the ending for those of us that don't have it yet. :lol: :) :wink:

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Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:00 pm

I picked up my copy yesterday of Bespoke. I can truthfully say it's as beautifully illustrated as the suits produced from Savile Row.

One mistake I found, in which North by Northwest is credited as being made in 1946. :wink:

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Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:26 pm

I wrote this on other fora and see no reason to alter it as I have not changed my mind:
I have bought the book and find it extremely disappointing.
True, there are some nice photographs, but I have some major criticisms:
First of all, I seriously question the selection of tailors: apart from the few, older, big names, which are too well-known to leave out, many of the firms featured are of the “modern”, “designer”, variety, with only a tenuous relationship, if any, with the SR tradition. One has to wonder whether inclusion was not conditioned on unstated factors and whether the author is entirely disinterested, since some quite respectable SR houses are inexplicably left out.
Secondly, the text presenting each house seems to have been written by their own PR department. In too many cases, the author reels off a list of footballers, actors, and other “celebrities” which the firms claims as customers, and engages in the sort of breathless enthusiasm usually found in women’s fashion magazines. I found it grating to say the least.
Finally, and as a brief conclusion, the historical and factual aspect is quite secondary to the “Wow, this is so cool and prestigious!” propaganda. Not much research seems to have gone into it.
If you are interested in Savile Row’s history, tradition, its people and its techniques, you would do much better to find a copy of Richard Walker’s The Savile Row Story (Prion, London, 1988). It is admittedly old, but presents a complete picture and history of the Row, with much research and facts, and represents a serious attempt to include the whole SR universe. May I add that I have no financial interest in either book?
I hope this helps.
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Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:53 pm

FiS - I agree entirely. I looked at this in a local book store fully expecting to buy it. It is substantial only in terms of its weight and I instantly recognised quite a few phrases that seem to have been copied and pasted from a previous publication by this author. Disappointing, but I am glad I decided to wait until I could inspect it rather than buying online - saved me a few pounds!
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