President Obama's tailor

"The brute covers himself, the rich man and the fop adorn themselves, the elegant man dresses!"

-Honore de Balzac

pchong
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Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:14 am

unfortunately, royalty too are subject to ill fitting clothes...see King Gustav in white tie at the Nobel Prize awards.

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storeynicholas wrote:
pchong wrote:Obama's sartorial performance in the balls were indeed dismal.


The Duke of Edinburgh belongs in the Sartorial Heroes thread. You are perfectly right, of course, countries that are fortunate enough to have kept their monarchs, don't suffer the humiliation of messy dressing in the head of state - Sarkozy here looks as though he has been caught short.
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Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:39 am

Unfortunately on Friday, January 23rd, the President's suitmaker, Hart Shaffner & Marx, filed for bankruptcy protection under Chapter 11.

See Reuters story here: http://uk.reuters.com/article/marketsNe ... 3920090124

The filing includes parent company Hartmarx Corp. and its various subsidiaries, such as Hickey Freeman, Hart Shaffner, and Coppley.

The companies plan to continue during re-organization.

This is a sad event for American clothing and industry.
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Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:31 am

santy567 wrote:if a man is not stylish by 50, he may never become one. obama must be over 50 and wears suits every day of the week, i doubt he changes.
it's not him, he is a man of the people. he reminds me of Bush; same suits, white shirts and colored silky ties, always.

changing subject i was thought, the duke of Windsor renounced the throne because of his friendship with Hitler and some people in Germany, which was not a very good thing in England at that time. his marriage seem to be the public excuse they gave then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKuXW2fLkz4
A quick search on Wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

... shows that he is currently 47.
storeynicholas

Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:45 pm

santy567 wrote:if a man is not stylish by 50, he may never become one. obama must be over 50 and wears suits every day of the week, i doubt he changes.
it's not him, he is a man of the people. he reminds me of Bush; same suits, white shirts and colored silky ties, always.

changing subject i was thought, the duke of Windsor renounced the throne because of his friendship with Hitler and some people in Germany, which was not a very good thing in England at that time. his marriage seem to be the public excuse they gave then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKuXW2fLkz4
The British government in 1936 (except, actually, Ed VIII's staunchest supporters - Churchill and Duff Cooper) was falling over itself to pacify Hitler and failing to arm against the likelihood of a further war and this attitude continued up until September 1939 - nearly 3 years after the abdication. I am not sure that it is right to say that Ed VIII had a 'friendship' with Hitler and certainly not after the declaration of war. Moreover, Hitler had been tolerated by the whole world for far too long in any event. Back to nearer the topic - any views on Adolf's dress sense?
NJS
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Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:48 pm

pchong wrote:unfortunately, royalty too are subject to ill fitting clothes...see King Gustav in white tie at the Nobel Prize awards.

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storeynicholas wrote:
pchong wrote:Obama's sartorial performance in the balls were indeed dismal.


The Duke of Edinburgh belongs in the Sartorial Heroes thread. You are perfectly right, of course, countries that are fortunate enough to have kept their monarchs, don't suffer the humiliation of messy dressing in the head of state - Sarkozy here looks as though he has been caught short.
NJS
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I am not sure that I agree at all the right side of his coat front is a little rucked up but Presidents and First Ladies seldom look as good as these two.
NJS
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Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:53 pm

NJS, possible that its just a ruffle, but I don't think so...

Here are some more pics of the King with short front panels on his tailcoat.

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Note Bulgarian President on his right is no better...

Gustav again...short front panels, waistcoat peeking out.

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Again, Prince Heindrick of Denmark is no better.

Many more...just google.
storeynicholas

Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:11 pm

pchong wrote:NJS, possible that its just a ruffle, but I don't think so...

Here are some more pics of the King with short front panels on his tailcoat.

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Note Bulgarian President on his right is no better...

Gustav again...short front panels, waistcoat peeking out.

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Again, Prince Heindrick of Denmark is no better.

Many more...just google.
Thank Goodness for the Duke of Edinburgh is all that I can say!!! and see a separate thread.
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Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:12 pm

but not all royalty are so unclear with white tie protocol...Of course British royals are always proper...

King Juan Carlos of Spain showing good form...his son is possibly borderline, while Mexican President...um...offends...

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The Emperor of Japan, regal and correct...with, um...King Gustav again with his short coat

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Also love the Emperor's break-free trousers. Here is another shorter gentleman looking absolutely regal...might be over doing a bit on the medals, though...but the protocol calls for no more than 3, and he has exactly 3.
storeynicholas

Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:20 pm

There is something curiously reassuring about those who get it right, isn't there? and, regardless of the truth of the matter, the disorder exhibited by the rest demonstrates a likelihood of confusion within.
NJS
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Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:31 pm

I'm probably straying into politics a little too much for this forum, but my real objection is how the Obamas are reviewed in the media. Our elites lionize them as heirs to the Kennedy style when--at least in matters of dress--they are hopelessly vulgar and uninspired. If the media ignore our new president's trivial flaws, will they also ignore his important ones?

The President and First Lady can be forgiven--they are to a large extent self-made and their vulgarity is to be expected. They are quick studies, and will soon adjust to their new positions. They are also both very attractive, which will help. But the media have completely abandoned their objectivity, and in a democracy, that's deadly.

Are we the only ones to acknowledge that the emperor has no clothes?

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Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:12 pm

no major media would ever admit the new president is not elegant, they've spend so much time making them. anything bad against the new president is counterproductive. it's impossible to opine.

regarding to Hitler he was never badly dressed of course his costume was military, since he was surrounded by militants. but he wore fine clothing in the alps. he loved dogs too.

http://hollywoodprop.com/posters.htm
storeynicholas

Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:11 am

santy567 wrote:no major media would ever admit the new president is not elegant, they've spend so much time making them. anything bad against the new president is counterproductive. it's impossible to opine.

regarding to Hitler he was never badly dressed of course his costume was military, since he was surrounded by militants. but he wore fine clothing in the alps. he loved dogs too.

http://hollywoodprop.com/posters.htm
Ha! I am amazed that there is a market for Adolf memorabilia and the sloping pockets give me pause for thought!
NJS :shock:
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Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:23 am

storeynicholas wrote:
santy567 wrote:no major media would ever admit the new president is not elegant, they've spend so much time making them. anything bad against the new president is counterproductive. it's impossible to opine.

regarding to Hitler he was never badly dressed of course his costume was military, since he was surrounded by militants. but he wore fine clothing in the alps. he loved dogs too.

http://hollywoodprop.com/posters.htm
Ha! I am amazed that there is a market for Adolf memorabilia and the sloping pockets give me pause for thought!
NJS :shock:
I am also utterly appalled that there is such a market. Yet, The Spectator once published an article entitled "Dictatorial Style" on the alleged good taste of some well known dictators.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine ... tyle.thtml :shock:
storeynicholas

Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:28 am

Marcelo - very amusing Spectator article!
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Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:23 am

being a dictator is fun, until they overthrow you, then shot or hang you, and parade your corpse across town. it's safer to go to school and be elected democratically.

but the only one who actually wrote books and made some sense was Hitler, then comes Mussolini and all those south Americans and African dictators. pure copy.

check this uniforms:

http://hollywoodprop.com/german.htm

http://hollywoodprop.com/ss.htm
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