Carlo Riva 180s Cotton ties your thoughts?

[luk-cha]

might be nice for unlined ties 7 folds only i think, i have made cotton ties a feww times any they make up better in this method!

[dopey]

Will the square patterns be specific to squares, e.g., framed or bordered. I don't like it when squares look like they were just cut from shirting or other material not intended for squares. I know many people don't care about this.

[David Hober]

might be nice for unlined ties 7 folds only i think, I have made cotton ties a few times any they make up better in this method!

Luk Cha,

Thank you.

I am thinking that ideally a medium weight wool interlining would work very well.

This would be to add form and fight wrinkles.

Now for gentlemen who not only have no fear of wrinkles but welcome them and smaller knots an unlined seven-fold would be an option.

[David Hober]

Will the square patterns be specific to squares, e.g., framed or bordered. I don't like it when squares look like they were just cut from shirting or other material not intended for squares. I know many people don't care about this.

Dopey,

Thank you for your question

I am looking at the samples as I type and they are mostly solids with subtle texture as well as a few stripes and other simple check type patterns In poplins, twills and voiles.

I am not sure what you mean by "framed or bordered". We can make any shape or size and the edges will be hand-rolled.

The solids will be fine for squares and the stripes could be interesting. We do currently make striped English reppe silk pocket squares for the sartorially adventurous but they are not for everyone.

[luk-cha]

might be nice for unlined ties 7 folds only i think, I have made cotton ties a few times any they make up better in this method!

Luk Cha,

Thank you.

I am thinking that ideally a medium weight wool interlining would work very well.

This would be to add form and fight wrinkles.

Now for gentlemen who not only have no fear of wrinkles but welcome them and smaller knots an unlined seven-fold would be an option.

David, well i think - if it is gonna wrinkle then let it (they will come sooner or later ) - so i would say small knots and wrinkles will be the art of summer chillin' and elegance

[RWS]

. . . . [F]or gentlemen who not only have no fear of wrinkles but welcome them and smaller knots an unlined seven-fold would be an option.

Small knots would be fine. 'Might even be a welcome change from an overly knotty world.

[iammatt]

Will the square patterns be specific to squares, e.g., framed or bordered. I don't like it when squares look like they were just cut from shirting or other material not intended for squares. I know many people don't care about this.

I definitely agree with you about this. There are exceptions, but as a rule, I like squares to be printed as such.

As for Riva cotton ties, it is not something that would be interesting to me. While I do love their fabric for shirts, I can't think of anything that would make me want to own a tie made of 180s cotton, Riva or not. With a few exceptions from jacketing books, I prefer my ties to be made from tie material and with tie like designs. Shirting would not seem to lend itself to my tie tastes.

[Concordia]

Coarse cotton or linen might be OK for ties. I'd want to see one of the Riva models before buying.

[iammatt]

Will the square patterns be specific to squares, e.g., framed or bordered. I don't like it when squares look like they were just cut from shirting or other material not intended for squares. I know many people don't care about this.

Dopey,

Thank you for your question

I am looking at the samples as I type and they are mostly solids with subtle texture as well as a few stripes and other simple check type patterns In poplins, twills and voiles.

I am not sure what you mean by "framed or bordered". We can make any shape or size and the edges will be hand-rolled.

The solids will be fine for squares and the stripes could be interesting. We do currently make striped English reppe silk pocket squares for the sartorially adventurous but they are not for everyone.

David,

Here is a picture of a pocket square like the one Dopey mentions. Note how the silk is printed to be a square in a specific size. I could do without the logo, but do prefer them to be printed like this.

[David Hober]

Matt,

Thank you a photo makes it easy to understand. And I also do not like the printed logo.

To answer Dopey's question while it can be a nice balanced look to frame a printed pocket square we prefer to work with non-framed fabrics as we receive requests for different sizes and shapes.

When I stop to think of it we tend to work with non-traditional pocket square fabrics and we currently have zero traditional pocket square printed silk on hand.

The only prints that we currently use are Atkinsons Irish poplin and David Evans/Adamley's Macclesfield twills. Both are primarily necktie fabrics.

I am not sure but we may be the only makers of pocket squares from Atkinsons Irish poplin.

At the moment we are inside a town and do not have the space to work on our own prints. Maybe later in the year or next year we will set up a another workshop just for printing and dyeing by hand. In which case we could do very small editions of prints with frames just to make Dopey happy. -smiling-

Concordia has already requested (a long time ago) madder prints so he is first on my list for special print requests.

David,

Here is a picture of a pocket square like the one Dopey mentions. Note how the silk is printed to be a square in a specific size. I could do without the logo, but do prefer them to be printed like this.

[Concordia]

Now I feel guilty.

[David Hober]

Now I feel guilty.

Actually I am always very happy to receive your suggestions. So please feel excited about the project and start making notes about design preferences. Paisley patterns have an Indian feeling perhaps we will also use some classical Thai motifs.

Part of my madder plan is to actually use real madder root. Our farm has some clay type soil which will not work for growing madder root but we also have some areas that will work.

My father-in-law will be picking out a plot of land for me to start an experimental garden. if the local growing conditions do not work I can always import madder root from Turkey but that is not my first choice.

I am also looking towards growing indigo and some other natural dye colors. all will be grown organically so as to work towards some environmental goals that are important to me.

[Concordia]

In addition to the all-over swirl paisley, repeating foulard-type patterns are quite useful. Also, as long as you're looking at a dark palette, red-wine backgrounds are versatile and seemingly hard to come by.

Others will have more imaginative choices, I'm sure.