Duke's Monogram

[uppercase]

Can anyone reads what the monogram on DOWs shirt says, or is …?

Also can't make out the belt…is it a necktie or is there a buckle there?

Do you think those trousers are made by his NYC tailor and the coat by Scholte?

[Taller]

Can anyone reads what the monogram on DOWs shirt says, or is …?

.... an insect, perhaps? Odd place for a monogram, I'd say...

Also can't make out the belt…is it a necktie or is there a buckle there?

Looks like an oval buckle to me...

[Pierre Spies]

Looks like a C or a G(eorge) with a crown on top of it.

[Frederic Leighton]

Can anyone reads what the monogram on DOWs shirt says, or is …?

.... an insect, perhaps? Odd place for a monogram, I'd say...

At the level of the 5th button is where monograms go, at least since the habit of having them on the inside of the collar went out of fashion.

[Taller]

At the level of the 5th button is where monograms go, at least since the habit of having them on the inside of the collar went out of fashion.

If it were a monogram, shouldn't it me more to the side of the shirt, over the heart? It looks a bit ostentatious to me, too much in-your-face. Anyway, I don't like the display of monograms. In the collar: fine. Near the hem on the bottom of the shirt: OK with me. To display one on the chest: rather vulgar, I think...

[uppercase]

An Italian shirtmaker told me that monograms belong at a point "just below the heart ".

Hand stitched by a woman working from her home, of course.

Looks great. No problems here with wearing a visible monogram. What the hell.

[Frederic Leighton]

If it were a monogram, shouldn't it me more to the side of the shirt, over the heart?

That's the Lacoste logo ..anyway, I agree with you - I don't like monograms either.. although I felt a bit guilty when I sent a linen shirt back to the shirtmaker to remove the hand stitched initials that I clearly said I didn't want.

[Taller]

Funny you should mention Lacoste. That croc probably was the first logo I ever saw on a piece of clothing, back in the fifties, early sixties. I loved those polo's then...

[hectorm]

Funny you should mention Lacoste. That croc probably was the first logo I ever saw on a piece of clothing, back in the fifties, early sixties. I loved those polo's then...

Lacoste was one of the first brands to use its logo outside their garments and by the time you first fell in love with it in the fifties, the croc had been around for more than 15 years.
But Jantzen swimwear appears to be the original clothes brand showing off its famous "diving girl" logo since the 1920's. Of course, there is also the "two horse" logo from Levi's jeans which predates both Lacoste and Jantzen by three or four decades.
AFAIK the "golden fleece" logo from Brooks Brothers (a sheep dangling from a ribbon) was adopted as a trade-mark since the mid-eighteen hundreds but I'm sure it wasn't used outside one of their garments until much more recently.
Maybe there is some LL member out there who knows more about this topic.

[theoldesouth]

Interesting information, Hectorm, thanks for sharing.

[Bwooster]

I believe the Duke's monogram was an 'E' (for Edward) with either a ducal coronet or royal crown above it, can't tell which from any images online.