Which style of horn button - 2 or 4 hole

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paborden
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:30 pm

I'm purchasing a bunch of unpolished horn buttons to send to my tailor, since all they really have in stock is either polished horn or corcorzo the latter of which I have come to very much dislike.

Of these, I can choose either Two-Hole or the traditional 4-Hole button. The 4s are pretty much ubiquitous except for with certain tailors on Saville row. Curious to hear if anyone has any preference or thoughts on which I should go with.
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:55 pm

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm mistaken about this, but (at one point) the convention was to use four-hole buttons on a suit and two-hole buttons on an odd jacket. Personally, it is one of those things that I don't care about. I specify or discuss the color of button I want and I don't care if it's two- or four-hole.

Go with whichever one you prefer.
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:24 pm

The only weird wrinkle on this I heard from Steed. Apparently, they shipped a suit out to a client after nearly-final fitting and he returned it. Shipped out again, thinking his housekeeper made a mistake: back again.

They knew it fit perfectly, but as they were checking the details, they noticed that the buttons had 4 holes and criss-cross thread. The client was Jewish.

So they removed the buttons and either went to 2-hole or did parallel windings. No more problems.
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:02 pm

Dear Paborden,

Anderson & Sheppard and expatriates like Steed and Thomas Mahon use 2-hole buttons. All my other tailors use 4-hole. For me, the colour and material have to match the cloth. Button holes are too small for me to worry about 8)

Cheers, David
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:47 am

Concordia wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:24 pm
The only weird wrinkle on this I heard from Steed. Apparently, they shipped a suit out to a client after nearly-final fitting and he returned it. Shipped out again, thinking his housekeeper made a mistake: back again.

They knew it fit perfectly, but as they were checking the details, they noticed that the buttons had 4 holes and criss-cross thread. The client was Jewish.

So they removed the buttons and either went to 2-hole or did parallel windings. No more problems.
I don't get it.
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:26 am

Four holes would be more secure, maybe.
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:58 pm

belimad wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:47 am


I don't get it.
Sign of the cross.
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:00 pm

Just leave it to the taylor and maybe silently disagree from time to time, until you embrace whatever buttons he chose for you after so many hours of work at the bench :lol:
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Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:51 pm

My Italian tailors have always said that 2 hole buttons are for ladies wear. But as mentioned above A&S use 2 hole buttons exclusively.

My own wardrobe has a mix of both. Just make sure and use good matte, horn buttons in the right color.

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old henry
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:32 pm

Which ever you choose run a bit of olive oil into them 👌
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paborden wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:30 pm
I'm purchasing a bunch of unpolished horn buttons to send to my tailor, since all they really have in stock is either polished horn or corcorzo the latter of which I have come to very much dislike.

Of these, I can choose either Two-Hole or the traditional 4-Hole button. The 4s are pretty much ubiquitous except for with certain tailors on Saville row. Curious to hear if anyone has any preference or thoughts on which I should go with.
Where are you getting the unpolished horn? My Italian tailor, like yours, likes to use polished horn, too.
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