I know it's a long shot but I'm searching for a specific piece of cloth for a customer.
Johnstons Of Elgin 24oz Estate Tweed W/5821 B/11.
Johnstons of Elgin W5821 / B11
Thank you so much Sir
I greatly appreciate this.
Frank S
I greatly appreciate this.
Frank S
You are welcome. I hope this lead turns out to be helpful for your project.
But before some purist fellow LL member accuses me of encouraging the wearing of Estate tweeds by those who are not entitled to them, let me say a few words as disclaimer.
Although I recognize that originally these tweeds were designed and woven for the owners and staff of a specific Scottish estate as a means of identification, I believe that, for the majority of them, those times are long gone. The designs (at least the most popular ones) have been adopted openly by the tweed industry first, and then by the apparel trade in general. It's not the same as with regimental ties or tartans, for which their association is still almost intact and one should avoid a knowingly trespass, if only for dignity. The "Estate" denomination that might be still included in a current cloth book is most likely only a marketing reference for what the pattern once was. Or maybe it's a rare vintage cloth that Johnstons milled for one of those estates. In any case, I have found that Scottish tweed lovers are very benevolent when their Estate tweeds are worn bona fide by us foreigners, and they only raise hell when it's pirated by English men, particularly if they are politicians or celebrities
Good luck with your search.
But before some purist fellow LL member accuses me of encouraging the wearing of Estate tweeds by those who are not entitled to them, let me say a few words as disclaimer.
Although I recognize that originally these tweeds were designed and woven for the owners and staff of a specific Scottish estate as a means of identification, I believe that, for the majority of them, those times are long gone. The designs (at least the most popular ones) have been adopted openly by the tweed industry first, and then by the apparel trade in general. It's not the same as with regimental ties or tartans, for which their association is still almost intact and one should avoid a knowingly trespass, if only for dignity. The "Estate" denomination that might be still included in a current cloth book is most likely only a marketing reference for what the pattern once was. Or maybe it's a rare vintage cloth that Johnstons milled for one of those estates. In any case, I have found that Scottish tweed lovers are very benevolent when their Estate tweeds are worn bona fide by us foreigners, and they only raise hell when it's pirated by English men, particularly if they are politicians or celebrities
Good luck with your search.
Coming to this a little late but I'm on vacation in the neighbourhood of Johnston's. If you're able to source something I could always pop over and pick up in the next couple of days. I'm flying back to NY on the 31st. After that date I could probably arrange something but it may not be the fastest.
If it's one of the Northern estates possibly https://www.campbellsofbeauly.com might be able to help.
As a matter of interest which estate is it? My father was just showing me the 1899 tenancy arrangement of our family farm from the Arndilly estate on Speyside.
If it's one of the Northern estates possibly https://www.campbellsofbeauly.com might be able to help.
As a matter of interest which estate is it? My father was just showing me the 1899 tenancy arrangement of our family farm from the Arndilly estate on Speyside.
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