Highest Quality Bespoke Ties

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Who makes the highest quality bespoke ties?

San Hober
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39%
Turnbull and Asser
3
3%
Charvet
40
38%
Marinella
22
21%
 
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Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:15 pm

Allegedly they now have staff on their own payroll in Gloucester to do at least some of this.
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Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:55 am

Re Sam Hober: I ordered a new white linen pocket square and specified a custom size, as the standard one is always too bulky for my pocket, especially with linen. With standard delivery to London ($4.5), I was wearing my new square 6 days after placing the order. Thank you, David!
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Thu May 14, 2015 9:16 am

Gentlemen,

I would wish to change the subject in this thread, as almost all my ties are RTW and not bespoke :shock:

Having received my first shipment from Sam Hober a few days ago, I'm formally joining the choir of Hober enthusiasts. The two Hober ties are clearly in the "fleur de sel" category, in terms of material, construction, finishing and wear. I have few other ties at equal level - Sulka, Charvet, some from Budd, Cappelli, Antonio Muro and Marinella. What comes on top: they are a very good deal. Only Budd and Cappelli ties match Hober here - but their product is not bespoke.

For those interested, the ties I'm talking about:
- Black watch regimental: http://www.samhober.com/regimental-ties ... ie-27.html
- Red/purple Sangdao rough silk tie: http://www.samhober.com/rough-thai-silk ... tie-6.html

The latter is a wonderful summer tie, with a beautiful "changeant" effect. The most beautiful changeant ties I had so far were Charvet. The Hober product is clearly better.

Cheers, David
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Thu May 14, 2015 10:07 am

davidhuh wrote:[...] Red/purple Sangdao rough silk tie: http://www.samhober.com/rough-thai-silk ... tie-6.html The latter is a wonderful summer tie, with a beautiful "changeant" effect. The most beautiful changeant ties I had so far were Charvet. The Hober product is clearly better.
Thank you for this review, David! Very useful, given also your familiarity with houses I haven't used yet. I ordered a set of 6 bespoke bow-ties last year from Sam Hober, all in this family of tonic fabrics made of thai silk. I like to wear them with a navy blazer or a linen jacket for a touch of Belle Époque during Summer :D They are beautifully made.
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Thu May 14, 2015 3:13 pm

You've pushed me over the edge David. I've just ordered 3 ties from Sam Hober following your review. Two Thai silks and a grenadine.

Thanks

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Thu May 28, 2015 3:39 pm

Well the ties came promptly as I expected from the feedback on this thread and I am very happy with them.
The fabrics I chose were:
Dark Gold Grenadine Grossa #28 https://www.samhober.com/grenadine-gros ... ie-28.html
Blue Thai Shot Silk #28 https://www.samhober.com/thai-shot-silk ... ie-39.html
Gold Thai Shot Silk #64 https://www.samhober.com/thai-shot-silk ... ie-64.html

They all came out a little lighter than I was expecting but such is the problem ordering coloured fabrics without bothering to get a sample first, my fault.
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Fri May 29, 2015 9:23 pm

culverwood wrote: They all came out a little lighter than I was expecting but such is the problem ordering coloured fabrics without bothering to get a sample first, my fault.
Dear Culverwood,

good to hear that you are happy. "Lighter than expected" - hm, you really make me think - the Hober ties are on the heavier side in my collection. Heavier than Charvet, much heavier than Drake's, heavier than Cappelli, much heavier than Muro... May be you have a chat with Mr Hober?

Cheers, David
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Sat May 30, 2015 9:57 pm

Surely, 'lighter' was used here meaning 'less dark' rather than 'less heavy'. By the way, it is also my experience with Hober ties, especially with various shades of navy.
davidhuh wrote:
culverwood wrote: They all came out a little lighter than I was expecting but such is the problem ordering coloured fabrics without bothering to get a sample first, my fault.
Dear Culverwood,

good to hear that you are happy. "Lighter than expected" - hm, you really make me think - the Hober ties are on the heavier side in my collection. Heavier than Charvet, much heavier than Drake's, heavier than Cappelli, much heavier than Muro... May be you have a chat with Mr Hober?

Cheers, David
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Sun May 31, 2015 11:58 am

kamil wrote:Surely, 'lighter' was used here meaning 'less dark' rather than 'less heavy'. By the way, it is also my experience with Hober ties, especially with various shades of navy.
Dear Kamil,

of course, this makes perfect sense then - it must have been late at night when I read this. :roll:

You can never trust a computer screen, and navy is one of the most difficult colours to photograph anyway. If a colour needs to be very precise, a swatch could be a good idea.

Cheers, David
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Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:12 am

Kamil is right by lighter I meant less dark. A lesson learnt though.
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Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:23 pm

"You can never trust a computer screen, and navy is one of the most difficult colours to photograph anyway. If a colour needs to be very precise, a swatch could be a good idea."

So true.

I remember when we first started offering swatches I thought every now and then we would get a swatch order - instead it turned out to be a very good idea as we cut swatches daily for hours at a time.

The shot silks are very much a challenge to show accurate colors as in real life the color changes depending on how you look at the silk.

We will soon finish building our new workshop and this time our art studio will have blackout curtains and we will use only indoor lights with minimal color touchup on the computer.
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Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:02 pm

What constitutes the bespeakable features of a bespoke tie?

I ask because I have just received three ties from E G Capelli's online store. One can choose from a range of lengths and widths and, to an extent, the type of construction - standard lined, 7 fold, etc. The range of silks on offer is reasonably wide. Result - stunning, I couldn't be more pleased. They arrived in about 10 days (Italy to UK) and were an amazing 80 Euros each. Considering I had a bolt of cloth arrive from Lovat at the same time the postman has been very good to me today. :D
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Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:42 am

Scot wrote:What constitutes the bespeakable features of a bespoke tie?
Well, from Sam Hober you can adjust virtually any dimension you wish. I have recently had some ties made that are a standard width blade, but which are slightly wider through the section where the knot is tied. I was attempting to get a somewhat heavier four-in-hand knot than would be typical with a grenadine or a madder silk. The results were satisfactory, but the experiment has provided further food for thought and I may try something else next time. So, you can adjust not only blade width and tie length, but the width of the tie at any point. You can request lighter or heavier lining, more folds or fewer; you can request stripes to run either in the American or in the English direction. There might be other things one can tweak, but these are the ones I know of myself.
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Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:53 pm

can anybody tell me if, when ordering Sam Hober ties for deliveries into the UK, they have ever been caught by import duties/taxes of any kind? This is always a bit or a risk when taking deliveries from overseas.

Thanks in advance.
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Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:58 am

Yes I'm sorry to say that is a problem. I was also hit by a hefty DHL surcharge as they settled the import duties then invoiced me (which I didn't request). The last tie that arrived was accompanied by an additional bill of £30.82, so a big hike in the price of the tie.
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