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Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:57 pm

A comparable 'fashion' currently in the 'cooler' London milieus is for bars styled as 30s speakeasies. Contrived? Absolutely. But in fact also exceedingly superior to almost every other watering hole that preceded them for the past 2years. Lovingly crafted cocktails with some provenance (vs. some sticky nasty concotion dreamed up by a talentless barman), great music (vs. ubiquitous drum and bass / electronica), the chance that some of the cleints won't be dressed like 1990s American juvenile delinquents or agricultural albourers and suggestive surroundings. What's not to like? Un peu de joie de vivre, alors!
I'm quoting Luca's post from the Q&A forum here to ask for suggestions as to the best of such places (including traditional bars that share these virtues). I'll be in London again in June for a couple of weeks and am always up for new pleasures. My last visit to the American bar at the Savoy revealed bartenders and drinks still in top form, but a lounge/singer pianist (too loud in a small space) whose repertory seemed to consist mostly of singer-songwriter pieces from the '70s and '80s (think Harry Chapin) that, apart from being of indifferent quality indifferently performed, seemed completely out of sync with everything else about the place. By request, he could play a Cole Porter medley, but the fact that he reduced one of the richest catalogues in the songbook to a brief medley in itself spoke volumes. The most satisfactory ambient music I've heard in recent years in London was at afternoon tea in Claridge's lobby, when a sparkling and clearly engaged (but not obtrusive) piano/cello/violin trio ran through light jazz / interwar song standards for a couple of hours straight with no duds and no duplicates. I like many other kinds of music as well--including more contemporary fare, but would rather have none than second-rate nostalgia fare that ill suits the venue. If I'm at Antone's in Austin I'm there for blues, not Bartok. But I digress.

Please enlighten us as to your favorites among this new trend. Should we say "Luca sent me"?
NJS

Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:14 pm

What I want is: a speak-easy, called 'Lucifer's'; layered with wavering, fragrant clouds of Turkish tobacco smoke; low-ceilinged too, so that there is no escape; just like Ronnie Scott's used to be, circa 1986. I bet that there are no takers for that one! But there would be no idle make-believe that some clip-board-wielding Tin-Hitler would be about to pounce! Instead, maybe we have the question:

"Milk in your gin, sir?"

:D ooo000OOO

NJS
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:08 pm

NJS wrote:What I want is: a speak-easy, called 'Lucifer's'; layered with wavering, fragrant clouds of Turkish tobacco smoke; low-ceilinged too, so that there is no escape; just like Ronnie Scott's used to be, circa 1986. I bet that there are no takers for that one! But there would be no idle make-believe that some clip-board-wielding Tin-Hitler would be about to pounce! Instead, maybe we have the question:

"Milk in your gin, sir?"

:D ooo000OOO

NJS
Did we run into each other there? Perhaps. I was there often then, particularly on Saturday evenings.
NJS

Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:50 pm

dopey wrote:
NJS wrote:What I want is: a speak-easy, called 'Lucifer's'; layered with wavering, fragrant clouds of Turkish tobacco smoke; low-ceilinged too, so that there is no escape; just like Ronnie Scott's used to be, circa 1986. I bet that there are no takers for that one! But there would be no idle make-believe that some clip-board-wielding Tin-Hitler would be about to pounce! Instead, maybe we have the question:

"Milk in your gin, sir?"

:D ooo000OOO

NJS
Did we run into each other there? Perhaps. I was there often then, particularly on Saturday evenings.
Well, maybe, but the evening that I most recall was sitting with Ronnie's daughter (who didn't say much); smoking robust Sullivan Powell's Oriental Cigarettes, right by the stage, with George Melly up on it! Those were the days! I simply cannot imagine the place without a cloud of smoke...It would be like watching Casablanca without the booze and smoke or going for a swim in an empty pool! Not very fashionable views, but there we are!

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=george ... ,s:0,i:186

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Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:38 am

That is a good question, are there any real speakeasies in London the sense of an establishment defying the tobacco prohibition? I do not expect to receive any specifics over the internet but the mere knowledge of the existence of such a place would soothe my spirit. I may be moving to England this year and the prospect of not being able to enjoy a cigar except al fresco depresses me greatly.
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Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:06 pm

Well you are quite right: the point needs to be made that it is just about inconceivable that anyone would dare to open a real London 'speakeasy' for smoking in defiance of the public smoking ban. However, the cynical, thin-blooded marketeering behind the mock 'liquor' speakeasies in 'cooler' areas of London - presumably Farringdon, Clerkenwell, Islington - in the spirit of 'let's pretend that we are wicked because we are too bloody frightened to be anywhere on the far-side of acquiescent and compliant to Tin-Hitlerism -' is now part of the soggy, soppy, wimpy climate of general opinion over there. I find that this is just as depressing as the public smoking ban itself as it is symptomatic of the reason that Tin-Hitlers take charge and do the things that they do.

I believe that smoking in tobacconists is allowed for the purpose of 'sampling' and that some tobacconists hold 'sampling' parties. Fox's (formerly Lewis's) in St James's Street, is one such place. They also have chairs for individuals and small groups to 'sample' away. I believe that is also permissible to arrange (effectively) smoking parties to provide tutoring and support for those trying to quit! It is rather a shame that more establishments (especially the clubs) have not (short of smoking 'speakeasies') followed the lead of the hunting lobby in quietly finding ways to render the legislation of Tin-Hitlers practically nugatory.

There are also places which have developed 'COSAS' - 'comfortable 'outside' smoking areas', which I understand can be rather good. This site has some details and it's free to join the Hunters & Frankau cigar club mentioned there:

http://cigars.co.uk/?accept=1
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:13 pm

I'm quoting Luca's post from the Q&A forum here to ask for suggestions as to the best of such places (including traditional bars that share these virtues).
To avoid disappointment, we should differentiate between: 1) bars that merely happen to be in long-established hotels/places; 2) bars that offer high quality but may not have a specific retro theme to them and 3) bars that have retro theme (assumign they are of high quality).

I'll skip n.1 since they are rarely, if ever worthwhile. I can say that I've recently enjoyed:
The bar at Brown's (had a few drinks with fellow LL member "pvpatty".
NightJar ( near SHoreditch; they played 20s music and they actually serve nice food -- unherd of in cool bars -- and the drinks were v. good and so was the crowd.).
Worship Street Whsitling Club (I know... the names are silly, but the drinks are not and the 'tenders combine the rewards of study with the enthusiasm of youth).
In Soho you've got Milk&Honey whcih, despite the uninspired reception, is well wort a visit.

... hmm, this could take a while... maybe better specify which area you're interested in... the choice, in London, has gone from disma, in the 90s, to formidable, now.
NJS

Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:49 pm

I see at the Nightjar they have a band called the Boogie Woogie Buggers (not kidding)! and serve, inter alia, a 'Nederland Negroni' in which every ingredient of the original Negroni is substituted! Certainly an interesting contrast with the staid bars of the 1990s but there are several of those (many now lost) which I regret, including, for a start, Jules' Bar in Jermyn Street (I think that it survived into the 1990s); the bars in the Hotel Russell (where T S Eliot courted Valerie) and the dim, cosy, secretive Sub Rosa Bar in the Cavendish Hotel with its wonderful memorabilia of Rosa Lewis.

NJS
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:32 pm

Thanks, Luca--we've enjoyed the Donovan Bar at Browns as well, though the late-night jazz guitarist has sometimes been a bit insistent in volume when the bar was not crowded. They made an interesting variation on the Vesper when the Daniel Craig Casino Royale was released, using Hendricks gin and a cucumber garnish (to pick up the cucumber aromatics in the gin), which I found quite successful--refreshing in summer. I'll look into the other spots you mention. These days we're usually based at 100 Piccadilly (next door to Lord Peter), but range pretty freely around town.

NJS, you take me down memory lane! Back in the late 70s, on one of my first-ever visits to London as a freshly minted American undergraduate who'd never tasted vintage port, I wandered in to the Russell bar (I was staying nearby), dripping, on a perfectly foul autumn day. The bar was wonderfully atmospheric, but completely run down--beyond shabby chic to threadbare and smelling of mold. Nevertheless the worn chesterfields and bald velvet chairs were inviting, so I sat down and picked up the drinks list from one of the little marble-topped tables. One of the entries was an unspecified "vintage port," with a price for a single or a double. My impression of port, at that point formed entirely from literature, was that it was the thing to drink on a dank day. Being impecunious, I asked the barman for a single.

He had sized me up no doubt as a clueless and probably barbaric American yoof who probably smoked pot and traveled with a backpack containing not enough clean clothes. "My god, man," he said, looking pained. "At least get a double." He did not, in General Yamashita's phrase, look happy in his work. Thoroughly browbeaten, I acceded meekly. He stalked off and returned after some time with a smallish glass and a quite fine cut-glass mallet decanter, to the neck of which was attached, via a twisted rubber band, a very long cork stained nearly black. He poured out the wine, waited a moment, turned on his heel, and disappeared.

I took a first, sip, intending to savor. I was just learning about wine in those days, but even I could tell this was no ordinary tipple. I took another sip, and it was if an entire olfactory and gustatory symphony started playing at once, so rich and complex was the juice. I sat motionless for some time, lost in the sensations. Then I realized I had no idea what I was drinking--I didn't want it to be the last time I experienced this pleasure.

So I mentally calculated my remaining funds, thinking how best to approach the barman for information. When I'd finished my glass, I walked over to the bar, where the barman sat on his stool reading a newspaper, and asked for another glass. As nonchalantly as I could manage, I asked him, "By the way, what is this I'm drinking?"

He looked at me the way a middle-aged person will look at you over their reading glasses, though he was not yet middle aged and wore none. "Fonseca 1963," he said. "Is that good enough for you?"

I made a mental note, though neither the name nor the vintage meant anything to me then.

In hindsight, I have much more sympathy with the barman who, at the time, I thought insufferably rude, though I endured it quietly. When later I, as a newlywed, began to lay down the vintages of '80s Pichon Lalande, Margaux, Hermitage LaChapelle, Suduiraut, and the others that I looked forward to sharing with my wife in their maturity, I felt great satisfaction at the prospect of building and investing in our life together. We did have a chance to share a few of those bottles--'82 Pichon Lalande at Le Bec Fin to celebrate publication of her first book--but she didn't live to taste the vast majority. Now, I look for happy occasions to share them, always keeping her secretly in mind--these wines that, even in their contemporary vintages I can probably never afford to replace. But no matter how good the company, there's always a little disappointment, a sense that the wine has missed the audience worthy of it.

So now, when I think of that embittered barman at the Russell, I think of Alexandrian poet C.P. Cavafy's remark to E.M. Forster in 1918: "But there is one unfortunate difference between us [the British and the Greeks], one little difference. We Greeks have lost our capital – and the results are what you see. Pray, my dear Forster, oh pray, that you never lose your capital."

May none of us ever again lose our capital. And, in Churchill's words, never, never, never give in.
NJS

Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:56 pm

Well, Couch, just as Dopey and I might have passed by each other in Ronnie Scott's, it sounds as though you and I might have passed by each other in the Hotel Russell, which was rather run-down; recently refurbished without being desecrated. It seems like an age ago and, in many senses, it was!

I started going in the Russell in my first year at UCL in 1978 - mainly in a small group for tea, where the usual waiter was a friendly Spaniard (quite the counterpoint to your barman), called Frank, who served tea in a cavernous lounge (now a conference hall) or the charming 'library' (with its fake books!). I remember that, eventually, he saved up enough to take his family back to Spain, where he bought his dream - a petrol station! I hope that it prospered.

I don't think that I ever had a drink in the cocktail bar at that time - that came later - and so I do not immediately recall the barman whom you describe so vividly, as well as the introduction to the Fonseca 1963 - which reminds me somewhat of my first taste of a Taylor's 1970! Certainly aged great wines can evoke memories and feelings (in the scent as well as the taste) like no other drink or food and your own wines have the other evocative association which you describe so delicately and well. Moreover, it cannot be coincidental that sacred Jewish celebrations and the Christian Eucharist (the FitzG translation of the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam too) are all centred on The Grape:

''Lo! Some we loved, the lov'liest and best,
That Time and Fate of all their Vintage pressed,
Have drunk their Cup a Round or two before,
And one by one crept silently to Rest.
''

NJS
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:42 pm

Gentlemen!

It seems you have found your speakeasy in this little corner on the web and it is very pleasant to listen in, sitting at the next table, mesmerised by the lovely and sometimes touching stories, enjoying a nice glass of red whilst doing so. Please continue this series of reminiscential stories, I thoroughly enjoy it, including the memories you invoke.

T
NJS

Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:34 pm

Here's a nice little clip ''Nobody ever brings anything small into a bar'':



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYU6mSIF8ww
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:44 pm

NJS wrote:I see at the Nightjar they have a band called the Boogie Woogie Buggers (not kidding)! and serve, inter alia, a 'Nederland Negroni' in which every ingredient of the original Negroni is substituted!
True, but in the interest of fairness they also made my Old Fashioned very well and...old fashioned (I always marvel at the obvious malapropism of bartenders trying to tweak a drink with such an uncompromisingly fogey name...).
The "hip" bars have their share of fashionable nonsense but they are both fun and open to 'quality'.

The Donovan at Brown's makes a Martinez, which is apparently a precursor to the Martini. Great stuff.

..this is making me THIRSTY on a Friday afternoon...
NJS

Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:05 pm

Luca wrote:
NJS wrote:I see at the Nightjar they have a band called the Boogie Woogie Buggers (not kidding)! and serve, inter alia, a 'Nederland Negroni' in which every ingredient of the original Negroni is substituted!
True, but in the interest of fairness they also made my Old Fashioned very well and...old fashioned (I always marvel at the obvious malapropism of bartenders trying to tweak a drink with such an uncompromisingly fogey name...).
The "hip" bars have their share of fashionable nonsense but they are both fun and open to 'quality'.

The Donovan at Brown's makes a Martinez, which is apparently a precursor to the Martini. Great stuff.

..this is making me THIRSTY on a Friday afternoon...

I think that the legend is that the Martinez was named after the town Martinez in 'Sunny Cal' when a bartender there mixed a sweet gin-based drink for a celebrating gold prospector in the mid-nineteenth century! However, I am sure that New York will fight all comers over the claim to the Dry Martini!

NJS
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