The Prince of Wales visits Anderson & Sheppard

"The brute covers himself, the rich man and the fop adorn themselves, the elegant man dresses!"

-Honore de Balzac

andreyb
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:52 pm

The Prince continues to show his support... and apparently, still orders new suits!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blnV8SuTsXw

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Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:48 pm

There is an informative write up of this in Saturday's (5 Jan) Daily Telegraph Magazine supplement - if you can source a copy.
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:59 pm

It's either that he isn't standing properly, or his coat doesn't seem to fit him very well (sleeves and back). Around the 1 minute mark. Though it's probably hard to accurately tell from just a short video.
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:37 pm

Of interest also might be this video. Karl Matthews can also be seen in there chuckling in response to the question 'On which side do you dress, Sir?' 'To the right, or to the left?'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VlGdtDm3mg
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:37 am

Here's the link to the Daily Telegraph article that Melcombe alludes to:

http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/article/ ... ailor.html
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:33 am

An unusually good article with many interesting facts. Thanks for sharing!

Andrey
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:12 am

loarbmhs wrote:Here's the link to the Daily Telegraph article that Melcombe alludes to:

http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/article/ ... ailor.html
Very interesting. Thank you.
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:14 pm

Well written Mr. Mick Brown, an entertaining read.

(The comments section are almost as funny as the forums.)

Cheers
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:23 pm

It's either that he isn't standing properly, or his coat doesn't seem to fit him very well (sleeves and back). Around the 1 minute mark. Though it's probably hard to accurately tell from just a short video.
MvM

What is it that you see that makes you think the fit is off?

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Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:15 pm

Gentlemen,

you should not miss this fine article by Mr Boyer:
http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2013 ... ostComment

No Royal Highness here, but a beautiful story :D

cheers, David

PS: Do not miss the comments
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:40 am

Good comments, David!
Boyer always written about clothes as he wears them: comfortably, affectionately, and with an absolutely essential wink of self-deprecation.
This last point is essential, I think. Someone who needs attention or takes themselves too seriously never has style. On the other hand, someone who dresses as mentioned above, exhudes a joie de vivre expressed in style. That, if I might be personal, is why I always enjoy seeing your bespoke pics!
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:48 pm

davidhuh wrote:you should not miss this fine article by Mr Boyer:
http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2013 ... ostComment
Amusingly, there is another article written by Mr Boyer, in which he says that his "first" on the Row was Bailey & Weatherill, not A&S.

Both stories are beautiful, though. :)

Andrey
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:03 pm

Rowly wrote: On the other hand, someone who dresses as mentioned above, exhudes a joie de vivre expressed in style. That, if I might be personal, is why I always enjoy seeing your bespoke pics!
Dear Rowly,

:o :shock: & blush - but thank you :D
andreyb wrote:Amusingly, there is another article written by Mr Boyer, in which he says that his "first" on the Row was Bailey & Weatherill, not A&S.
Dear Andrey,

great souls recycle here and there :) - thinking of Bach, Handel, Mozart or Rossini to name a few. Mr Mozart aka Mr Boyer in men's style writing has our blessing for sure. He explains something in your articles last para:

"I ordered another suit, a mini tan-and-black hounds tooth number, and Mr. Bailey cut it perfectly. But at the last fitting me told me he was going to retire and close the business, which within the year he did. I moved on to Anderson & Sheppard, who made wonderful clothes for me for many years."

cheers, david
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:51 pm

marburyvmadison wrote:It's either that he isn't standing properly, or his coat doesn't seem to fit him very well (sleeves and back). Around the 1 minute mark.
Dear MvM,
I´m no fan of the soft construction of A&S suits, but IMHO the sleeves and back (and above all, neck and shoulders) of the PoW´s jacket fit to perfection. Around the 1 minute mark the Prince pulls his arms back stressing the particular pitch of his sleeves (otherwise perfect for his usual -and peculiar- posture). That causes some rumpling you see. I think that´s all.
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:55 pm

hectorm wrote:
marburyvmadison wrote:It's either that he isn't standing properly, or his coat doesn't seem to fit him very well (sleeves and back). Around the 1 minute mark.
Dear MvM,
I´m no fan of the soft construction of A&S suits, but IMHO the sleeves and back (and above all, neck and shoulders) of the PoW´s jacket fit to perfection. Around the 1 minute mark the Prince pulls his arms back stressing the particular pitch of his sleeves (otherwise perfect for his usual -and peculiar- posture). That causes some rumpling you see. I think that´s all.
Makes absolute sense, and probably the likely reason. I figured it's possible he wasn't standing properly, hence the pitch and back. I just wasn't sure because there is smth similar around the 30-ish-40 sec mark, and I thought his arm must have been craned very far back to create that much rumples. But it might well be due to his stance. Furthermore, a suit isn't made of cardboard! :lol:

This actually brings me to my question:

Out of curiosity, should one expect that a slight waving (or lifting) of the arms be enough to create a collar gap on a coat, even on a well-made coat? Or should it hug the collar firmly excepting vigorous motion? I've been wondering about that for a bit. I have a coat that fits reasonably well, it doesn't 'hug' the collar tightly in an embrace, but it 'touches' the collar. However, when one moves a little, a collar gap forms, albeit a small one. Is this to be expected?
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