bond_and_beyond wrote:alden wrote:I agree with you, though I doubt the posts of "real people" I linked to on StyleForum are in any way adverts. Furthermore, though Simon Crompton's blog has gotten gradually more commercial, I think it a bit unfair to just stamp his blog posts as invalid advertisement. I have been following his blog for years and he can indeed be critical with many of the "products" he "tests". Mind you also the Graham Browne bespoke blog posts were made before he had a big, established readership and was considered a "hot" style blogger. I would be more sceptical to the blog post on the Anderson and Sheppard suit he got for free.
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That is the kind of attitude that keeps these guys in business. A blogger who receives any goods, services or cash in exchange for an opinion or publicity is providing advertising. Sorry I have my feet planted in the soil of the real world. These antics are not permitted on the LL and I cringe reading second hand accounts of the mischief.
This site is closely monitored to keep the advertisers away...and many have had to go to other forums to ply their trade because of my attitude. I like to think that is why many members come here to participate in the club. But credulity springs eternal...
Your experience is what matters to the world weary here on the LL..and that is good enough.
Cheers
Alden, I do appreciate the LL's rare, "genuine" atmosphere where there is no commercial considerations in play. That is why LL is the go to source for me for all things bespoke.
However, as a more general point, would you not say that it is also fair to try to counter arguments that a certain tailor produces a "terrible fit" with the evidence one has in hand? Especially when the first argument is based on a post on another forum? If I had said nothing in this thread, then I fear that the criticism against Graham Browne would be fairly one sided, and the impression that this thread would leave to the casual reader was that Graham Browne is no good.
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BB, I think you neglected my point that I have two friends who have used GB, and the fit was quite terrible. I think talk is cheap so I shall try to organize a meeting and try and take pictures of their suits, weird as it may be. I don't think they went back to get the problems fixed.
Like has been said, nothing justifies GB letting that fella as well as the suits on two of my friends out of the door like that. I may have been influenced by the three terribly fitting suits by him that I've encountered. But that is, unfortunately, my account of it.
*For all purposes, I'd like to point that, in several posts that have been made, and even in Aston's comment, he did say that '
If you know what you want, and
especially what you do not want, I think they do a pretty good job'. This speaks to the customer who has some rudimentary knowledge of how he wants his suit to fit, and not the uninitiated novice (like my two friends, and probably a couple other posters),
who left everything to GB, were left with suits that fit terribly.
I just think that when it boils down to fundamental issues of fit, whether or not something is to be gained out of the extra work put in, and whether or not the inexperienced customer might be able to see the faults in it, the cutter/tailor should do it to his best. To be a tailor in the 'old' sense of the word.
