EG vs Cleverley RTW vs Vass wholecut

[Guest]

Bry2000, I am getting a vibe from you now that you are not happy with my posts....

[BenedictSpinola]

David,

Wholecuts are generally more forgiving in terms of fit than most other shoes (as they have only one seam). That said, you shouldn't forsake fit at the expense of comfort - why not wait for an EG trunk show? Alternatively, Budapest is a great place to visit.

Spinola

[Guest]

Anyone know what last is depicted in the Photojournal picture of the EG Newbury?

[RWS]

Does the oft-praised 888 last from Edward Green appear anywhere in the Photojournal?

[Guest]

Didn't Tony write that the 606 and the 888 are essentially the same last, with slightly different toes?

[jcusey]

Does the oft-praised 888 last from Edward Green appear anywhere in the Photojournal?

I believe that several of the lace-ups pictured in the Photojournal are made on the 888 last, although it's difficult to tell from the angle that all are shot from. This picture of the Gladstone, for example, looks to be on the 888:



In addition, you may want to take a look at a photo album of last comparisons put together by member mpolanthan:

http://img25.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=eg606-eg888_sm.jpg

[RWS]

Thank you, jcusey, for directing me to a most enlightening chart. I'd hope that mpolanthan would post it and its constituent photographs to our Photojournal, so that this resource won't disappear when posting time on Image Shack expires.

I've just perused the sub-album, in the Photojournal, of Green's readymade shoes. Those photographs would be more useful if the original poster or someone else would label each image not only with the name of the model but also with the number of the last and the name of the stain.

[Guest]

I just spoke with Kempson. His prices for the Cleverlys ($600) is comparable to the cost in London ($579 delivered from London without duty). He denies the wholecut is on the Weymouth last, though he did not appear to have specific knowledge. He claimed that all the Cleverlys are on exclusive lasts.

[jcusey]

He claimed that all the Cleverlys are on exclusive lasts.

I wouldn't presume to call Mr. Kempson incorrect, but I can relate my experience with Cleverley. Both of my pairs of Cleverley shoes came in a blue box identical to the Crockett & Jones boxes that I've seen except for the Cleverley logo stamped on the top. The sides of these boxes listed the standard things that you see on boxes for RTW shoes (eg, last number, color, etc.); and the last numbers were 337 and 348, both of which are Crockett & Jones lasts available on their C&J-labelled shoes.

[Mark Seitelman]

Your best bet is to meet Susie Jones at a trunk show. She'll bring samples and some of the new models. You will be able to see for yourself the differences in style and fit. Once you do this you should be able to place future orders by mail.

Good luck.

[smoothjazzone]

RWS:

The LL Special Edition shoes are on the 888 last. The link is:

http://thelondonlounge.net/gl/gallery/L ... ns/windsor

There are some more pictures available on the old Yahoo LL group.

Does the oft-praised 888 last from Edward Green appear anywhere in the Photojournal?

[whittaker]

The LL Special Edition shoes are on the 888 last. The link is:
http://thelondonlounge.net/gl/gallery/L ... ns/windsor

What a beautiful shoe. I'm guessing that this edition was fully subscribed at the time?

[BenedictSpinola]

Whittaker,

Indeed it is a handsome shoe. Try contacting Edward Green via Tony Gaziano - I suspect that they could do this shoe for you.

Spinola

[zjpj]

Whittaker,

Indeed it is a handsome shoe. Try contacting Edward Green via Tony Gaziano - I suspect that they could do this shoe for you.

Spinola

Clearly, if you go bespoke, they can make anything for you.

[BenedictSpinola]

Clearly, if you go bespoke, they can make anything for you.

Indeed. But that isn't a bespoke shoe - EG should be able to do it as a "made to order" shoe. As I recall, Michael worked with Tony on resurrecting/creating the design.