pant pockets

[old henry]

Gazmans beautiful coat took Four Fittings.

[dopey]

I think the lesson here is, once again, if you're not perceived as a high value target, you're not likely to get a lot of service from some of these established businesses. There is no nice way to spin it. Clearly this tailoring house could do better, often does better, but not for this particular new customer. I have seen this from U.K. and Italian bespoke makers. The errors in the U.S. on the other hand have been more like sloppy attention to requested details, but not in the workmanship or fit. It's also not as easy to hustle you or hide from you at home.

Mr. Dopey seems to have been on a roll with visits to big names as a new customer. Some of us have not been as fortunate.

That is true - things have worked out well for me at some of the big tailoring names.
On the other hand, recall that I stopped using a tailor, after nearly a dozen years, because service and quality had fallen off much as you described above. Since leaving that house, I have tried several other tailors and shirtmakers. Some attempts of been more successful than others, but in only one case would I say that I received less than excellent quality or service.

[tteplitzmd]

What's your secret, Dopey?

[dopey]

What's your secret, Dopey?

Luck, primarily. Plus patience. And in the case of Caraceni, making it clear from the outset that I knew they were closing for August and would need several fittings to do good work but if they would be willing to work on that schedule, so would I (good advice from uppercase).

[hectorm]

Mr. Dopey seems to have been on a roll with visits to big names as a new customer. Some of us have not been as fortunate.
What's your secret, Dopey?

Luck, primarily. Plus patience.

I resist the idea of luck being the primary reason for getting good service at SR big houses. I firmly believe that an educated customer who himself visits the shops on the Row has the odds on his favor for getting it from the start. At least that was my experience when I was posted in London during the late 80s and early 90s (I know, I know, this was 25 years ago). The day I first stepped into Huntsman's I already have done the homework and knew who Mr. Hammick was (I didn't get him to cut my suits though) and what the bespoke process implied. The latter may be the reason why I've always avoided traveling tailors. I'd rather have a very good but unsung tailor accesible in my city (even my neighborhood) than Mr. Brian Lishak for 15 minutes once or twice a year.
As for patience, well, you are right, you wouldn't get much from being just impatient, would you?
Cheers

[davidhuh]

I'd rather have a very good but unsung tailor accesible in my city (even my neighborhood) than Mr. Brian Lishak for 15 minutes once or twice a year.

Dear Hectorm,

thank you, this one deserves framing

cheers, David