Strollers gone - why?

[carl browne]

Juan Carlos is almost certainly the most under-rated figure of the Twentieth Century. Seizing power in a country (as Franco did) makes one noteworthy. Relinquishing it (as Juan Carlos did) makes one great. I can think of only one other man who was offered great power and refused it for the common good, and that was George Washington. Juan Carlos is the greatest living royal--insufficient praise maybe, considering the selfishness and stupidity of most of the rest of them.

But back to the stroller; what are the rules?

Must the coat be black or is Oxford grey OK? How about a subtle herringbone? Is the vest absolutely necessary? Must the trousers be striped or can they be checked or solid flannel? Bow tie vs. four-in-hand? Shirt color? SB vs DB? Does the SB version have peaked lapels? Flapped or jetted pockets? Turn ups on the trousers?

While I think that "creative black tie" is an abomination, seems like you might have a little more leeway with the stroller without looking like an ass.

I have been thinking about the following: Black or Oxford DB coat with with a subtle herringbone, mid to dark grey flannel checked or solid trousers, no vest, solid or striped colored shirt with white collar and cuffs, colored and/or subtly patterned four-in-hand tie, black wholecut shoes.

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[Costi]

Must the coat be black or is Oxford grey OK? How about a subtle herringbone? Is the vest absolutely necessary? Must the trousers be striped or can they be checked or solid flannel? Bow tie vs. four-in-hand? Shirt color? SB vs DB? Does the SB version have peaked lapels? Flapped or jetted pockets? Turn ups on the trousers?

My opinion:
Oxford gray or black OK. Subtle herringbone OK. Waistcoat necessary with SB stroller, optional with DB. Trousers striped or checked, but not flannel. Bow tie accepted, four-in-hand ideal. Shirt coloured or striped, white collar (cuffs may be white, too, but not necessarily). SB or DB OK. SB not necessarily but preferrably with peak lapels. Jetted pockets. No turnups on trousers.
And ventless coat, I would add.

I have been thinking about the following: Black or Oxford DB coat with with a subtle herringbone, mid to dark grey flannel checked or solid trousers, no vest, solid or striped colored shirt with white collar and cuffs, colored and/or subtly patterned four-in-hand tie, black wholecut shoes.

Just change the flannel trousers with a Cheviot Shepherd's check or Glenncheck, make sure the coat is DB if you want to skip the waistcoat and you'll look great. Pictures coming soon?

[rodes]

I have one for fall,winter in 13 oz. oxford gray subtle herringbone; one for spring,summer in 10 oz. oxford gray fresco. Both are DB, nonvented, jetted pockets and worn with checked trousers,white collar, four-in-hand tie and punch cap black shoes. To make both more versatile I also ordered matching dark trousers. That way they can double as lounge suits for more formal occasions.

[Concordia]

I have a DB suit in Oxford grey herringbone also-- no vents or flaps. So if the need ever arises, an order of striped trousers and a white-collared shirt will see me through.

[carl browne]

Thanks, Gentlemen.

Costi, I'm afraid the stroller is way down on my queue. I'm still working on my tobacco linen suit.

[Costi]

That's understandable, Oxford gray isn't as addictive as tobacco

[Charlie Huang]

I sometimes wear black lounge when going to a meeting in the Metrop although sometimes I prefer morning dress as currently my black lounge jacket is rather rubbish and I'm currently looking for a replacement to it.