Fur coat. What kind of fur to choose?

[Leaves]

Newly-made-rich Eastern European guys ? I suggest you watch "Dr Zhivago" to see how Russian Old Money used to dress outdoors in midwinter

As I said, my good man, "A great coat in fur might pay homage to the past."

[Mark Seitelman]

How would sheared mink work as a lining?

Also, do regular tailors work with fur? My friends at Oxxford tell me that this is a job for a furrier.

[storeynicholas]

A furrier sees to the fur. the couple of occasions when I had such coats made, I selected the fur. The first time I think that the furrier came to the tailor and the second time, I went to the furrier.

[Jordan Marc]

Ian Fleming once said: "Never trust a man with a mustache."

I say: "Never trust a man wearing a fur coat. It doesn't matter if it's on the inside or out. Fur of any kind is strictly for women."

JMB

[storeynicholas]

Ian Fleming once said: "Never trust a man with a mustache."

I say: "Never trust a man wearing a fur coat. It doesn't matter if it's on the inside or out. Fur of any kind is strictly for women."

JMB

Ian Fleming probably said 'moustache' with a different spelling if he said it at all (I thought that it was a beard). Noel Coward said "Don't trust short men: brains too near their bottoms". Another one is "Don't trust a man with close set eyes". So to summarize:

Beware of a short man, with close-set eyes and a moustache (or beard), in a fur coat.

[Costi]

Ian Fleming once said: "Never trust a man with a mustache."

I say: "Never trust a man wearing a fur coat. It doesn't matter if it's on the inside or out. Fur of any kind is strictly for women."

JMB

As I read the post I thought you were going to write " Fur of any kind is strictly for ANIMALS" if anything - which would have been rather hard to contradict. But... women?! What else is "strictly for women"? Silk? Perfume? Dish washing? The only one I am sure of (at least for the time being!) is bearing a child.

[Costi]

Beware of a short man, with close-set eyes and a moustache (or beard), in a fur coat.

So that's what the devil looks like when he takes the guise of a gentleman and tempts one into sartorial sin. I must say a beard and a fur go very well together

[storeynicholas]

Ian Fleming once said: "Never trust a man with a mustache."

I say: "Never trust a man wearing a fur coat. It doesn't matter if it's on the inside or out. Fur of any kind is strictly for women."

JMB

As I read the post I thought you were going to write " Fur of any kind is strictly for ANIMALS" if anything - which would have been rather hard to contradict. But... women?! What else is "strictly for women"? Silk? Perfume? Dish washing? The only one I am sure of (at least for the time being!) is bearing a child.

I vote for dish washing;)

[Costi]

...and since they can't do the dishes while wearing furs, silks and perfumes, we'll gladly take the burden of exclusivity off their shoulders

[storeynicholas]

...and since they can't do the dishes while wearing furs, silks and perfumes, we'll gladly take the burden of exclusivity off their shoulders

Spot on Costi!

[Jordan Marc]

Costi:

Silk is not gender specific. Women wear bridal gowns, suits, blouses, scarves and shoes made of the stuff. Silk lingerie and hosiery used to be commonplace, too, though now it's mostly polyester made in China. Men wear silk ties and pocket squares. It turns up in formalwear as silk satin and silk faille
lapel facings, stripes on trousers, bow ties, hosiery, laces on plain toe patent leather tie-ups and pinched or flat bows on opera pumps.

Perfume, which dates back to ancient China and Egypt, was worn by both men and women. Much later it was appropriated by women, then men appropriated it in lighter formulations called cologne. By the time it gets around to the "noses" on Basenotes, nobody cares who wears what scent. From kings and queens to the age of genderbenders in record time.

JMB

[Costi]

Thank you very much for educating me on the subject so exhaustively. I believe fur wearing dates back a lot earlier than silk and perfumes and it was certainly not "gender specific" (in Flintstones times, I doubt anything was - much like today ).
I think you left out dish washing, though... Gender specific or not?

[storeynicholas]

I was just thinking 'Flintstones' before I read your post, Costi:


http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... 276&bih=54

QED.

[SMCK]

I suspect that now that winter seems giving way to spring there may be little interest in fur of any form.However I have just spotted this auction lot described as Edwardian fur lined car coat with astrakan collar, which may be of interest to someone.
I don't know how to bring up the photo but : Dukes-Auctions.com Lot 610 sale 10th. Feb.

[alden]

I made a great discovery the other day. I met a 72 yr old woman tailor who makes bespoke fur coats. Or she did make them as she is months away from closing up her small shop in Paris she has held since 1948. She has worked for Chanel and others during her career and walking into her atelier is like (or better) than walking into one on SR. We had a long conversation about removable linings for overcoats and she does them still by hand the old fashioned way. So I am going to have some linings made for some of my overcoats starting with a brown Ulster. She suggested a brown nutria removable lining.

If all goes well I hope to offer her work as an option for London Lounge (BTM) overcoats. Have the coat handmade in Italy and a fur lining handmade in Paris to fit. I am really looking forward to this project.

She also introduced me to the last bespoke fur hat maker. I have two on order and will keep you all up to date on the progress!

Cheers

Michael