Governor Palin, A woman after my own heart

[Cufflink79]

Was it Ronald Reagan? First inauguration (January 20, 1981)?

That would seem likely - I don't recall the successors having done so. Here is JFK plainly in morning dress, just before his inauguration:





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President Reagan wore a stroller for his 1981 inauguration, black jacket gray trousers, black shoes, white shirt, silver tie, and no hat. in 1985 for his second term inauguration he wore a business suit and tie.

Best Regards,

Cufflink79

[Cufflink79]

Perhaps we could discuss the election if someone deems it likely that McCain or Obama should attend their inauguration speech appropriately dressed?

Obama apparently wore a Hart Schaffner Marx suit at the convention - http://www.forbes.com/2008/08/26/obama- ... asuit.html

That's good to see an American candidate in an American made product. I feel that the President, members of Congress and the Senate should be dressed in American products. Such as Brooks Brothers, Southwick, Hickey Freeman, Oxxford Clothes, Hart Schaffner Marx as stated above, Alden shoes, Allen Edmond shoes, Gittman Bros. Shirts, Robert Talbott ties and shirts, and Hamilton custom shirts to just name a few.

They should also be driving American cars as well. Obama has a Crysler and McCain has a Cadillac.

Best Regards,

Cufflink79

[storeynicholas]

Was it Ronald Reagan? First inauguration (January 20, 1981)?

That would seem likely - I don't recall the successors having done so. Here is JFK plainly in morning dress, just before his inauguration:





[img][img]http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55 ... jackie.jpg[/img]

NJS[/img]

President Reagan wore a stroller for his 1981 inauguration, black jacket gray trousers, black shoes, white shirt, silver tie, and no hat. in 1985 for his second term inauguration he wore a business suit and tie.

Best Regards,

Cufflink79

Thank you Cufflink79 for clearing that up! Regardless of the politics, who recalls (in my case from later reading) a later inauguration speech to match JFK's - from the formality of the opening to the eloquence of the substance. Much the same goes across the pond too for eloquence, in the same time scale - JFK reached out to all (rather as Churchill had, not that long before), with simple words, wonderfully arranged. Maybe, that is why some of us are tempted to stray into an examination of the question whether there is a sociological link between form and substance - in words and in dress. Maybe, one can, in some sense, measure the state of civilization by these things. However, the Dressing Room is too early in the day for polemics!
NJS

[HappyStroller]

I apologise, especially to Cufflink79, the originator of this thread, for hijqcking his haberdasher theme into the purely distasteful political realm.

The suggestion about discussing possible inaugural address dressing is commendable.

However, though McCain is 71 years old, Kennedy was born on May 29, 1917, while Reagan was born even earlier, on 6 February 1911. Maybe he'll just stick to his traditional navy blazer and grey slacks, which is by present-day standards quite a nice combination.

[Cufflink79]

. . . one of the most refreshing things about LL is the lack of politics. Can we keep it that way, gentlemen? . . . .

Hear, hear!

It's an easy but specious inference to think that fellow appreciators of dressing well are fellow appreciators of older ways. As we've just seen, that isn't necessarily so. Let's stick with what we do all hold in common and leave the rest to -- the Retrocentrics' Club!

Gentlemen:

I didn't mean to get anyone's blood boiling. A good debate is always fun, but in a form like this I merely ment to show that many people who heard the speech didn't know what a haberdasher was.

I sincerely apologize if I offended anyone, that wasn't my intent.

Best Regards,

Cufflink79

HappyStroller Wrote:
I apologise, especially to Cufflink79, the originator of this thread, for hijqcking his haberdasher theme into the purely distasteful political realm. Embarassed

The suggestion about discussing possible inaugural address dressing is commendable.

However, though McCain is 71 years old, Kennedy was born on May 29, 1917, while Reagan was born even earlier, on 6 February 1911. Maybe he'll just stick to his traditional navy blazer and grey slacks, which is by present-day standards quite a nice combination.

Don't feel bad HappyStroller, your comments are always welcome.

Best Regards,

Cufflink79

[NCW]

That's good to see an American candidate in an American made product. I feel that the President, members of Congress and the Senate should be dressed in American products. Such as Brooks Brothers, Southwick, Hickey Freeman, Oxxford Clothes, Hart Schaffner Marx as stated above, Alden shoes, Allen Edmond shoes, Gittman Bros. Shirts, Robert Talbott ties and shirts, and Hamilton custom shirts to just name a few.

They should also be driving American cars as well. Obama has a Crysler and McCain has a Cadillac.

This sounds strangely like the sort of speech Wodehouse gave Spode (the leader of the 'Black Shorts' British Fascists), satirising the Black Shirts; they stood for giving every man a British Bicycle, a British Umbrella, and recultivating the West Country with British Sprouts. The dictator-not-to-be actually sold ladies' underwear when not espousing the cause of 'the British man Baring his [knobbly] Knees for the Country'.

(I am not accusing you of course of sounding silly or being a fascist.)

[Frog in Suit]

That's good to see an American candidate in an American made product. I feel that the President, members of Congress and the Senate should be dressed in American products. Such as Brooks Brothers, Southwick, Hickey Freeman, Oxxford Clothes, Hart Schaffner Marx as stated above, Alden shoes, Allen Edmond shoes, Gittman Bros. Shirts, Robert Talbott ties and shirts, and Hamilton custom shirts to just name a few.

They should also be driving American cars as well. Obama has a Crysler and McCain has a Cadillac.

This sounds strangely like the sort of speech Wodehouse gave Spode (the leader of the 'Black Shorts' British Fascists), satirising the Black Shirts; they stood for giving every man a British Bicycle, a British Umbrella, and recultivating the West Country with British Sprouts. The dictator-not-to-be actually sold ladies' underwear when not espousing the cause of 'the British man Baring his [knobbly] Knees for the Country'.

(I am not accusing you of course of sounding silly or being a fascist.)

I think he not only sold, but designed as well. And what was the name of Sir Roderick Spode's establishment? It's on the tip of my tongue....Starts with an E.....

Frog in Suit

[storeynicholas]

That's good to see an American candidate in an American made product. I feel that the President, members of Congress and the Senate should be dressed in American products. Such as Brooks Brothers, Southwick, Hickey Freeman, Oxxford Clothes, Hart Schaffner Marx as stated above, Alden shoes, Allen Edmond shoes, Gittman Bros. Shirts, Robert Talbott ties and shirts, and Hamilton custom shirts to just name a few.

They should also be driving American cars as well. Obama has a Crysler and McCain has a Cadillac.

This sounds strangely like the sort of speech Wodehouse gave Spode (the leader of the 'Black Shorts' British Fascists), satirising the Black Shirts; they stood for giving every man a British Bicycle, a British Umbrella, and recultivating the West Country with British Sprouts. The dictator-not-to-be actually sold ladies' underwear when not espousing the cause of 'the British man Baring his [knobbly] Knees for the Country'.

(I am not accusing you of course of sounding silly or being a fascist.)

I think he not only sold, but designed as well. And what was the name of Sir Roderick Spode's establishment? It's on the tip of my tongue....Starts with an E.....

Frog in Suit

Spode's Big Secret in W1. SHOUT IT OUT - EULALIE!! - serves him right - now............. START RUNNING!! ................SPODE IS COMING!! .................................................................Bearing in mind PGW's creation of Spode and the Black Shorts, it always strikes me as odd that Duff Cooper as Minister for War could have seen the need to have 'Cassandra' of the Daily Mirror lay into Wodehouse for his mocking broadcasts (as a prisoner) on German radio during WWII. The sad result was that, although PGW still wrote about England in his parallel universe, he never returned after the end of WWII.
NJS

[Cufflink79]

That's good to see an American candidate in an American made product. I feel that the President, members of Congress and the Senate should be dressed in American products. Such as Brooks Brothers, Southwick, Hickey Freeman, Oxxford Clothes, Hart Schaffner Marx as stated above, Alden shoes, Allen Edmond shoes, Gittman Bros. Shirts, Robert Talbott ties and shirts, and Hamilton custom shirts to just name a few.

They should also be driving American cars as well. Obama has a Crysler and McCain has a Cadillac.

This sounds strangely like the sort of speech Wodehouse gave Spode (the leader of the 'Black Shorts' British Fascists), satirising the Black Shirts; they stood for giving every man a British Bicycle, a British Umbrella, and recultivating the West Country with British Sprouts. The dictator-not-to-be actually sold ladies' underwear when not espousing the cause of 'the British man Baring his [knobbly] Knees for the Country'.

(I am not accusing you of course of sounding silly or being a fascist.)

Thanks for the comments NCW.

Best Regards,

Cufflink79

[sartorius]

rjman wrote:
. . . one of the most refreshing things about LL is the lack of politics. Can we keep it that way, gentlemen? . . . .

Hear, hear!

I came to this thread rather late, but as I seem to have been named in one of the earlier posts, I hope you will indulge me. I see nothing wrong with the odd political joke or satirical quip - indeed, they add welcome colour if done in the right way. But I don't think any of us really want to read long threads of political diatribe, moaning about the same stuff we read in the paper every morning. I certainly don't.

It's an easy but specious inference to think that fellow appreciators of dressing well are fellow appreciators of older ways. As we've just seen, that isn't necessarily so.

I think that most of us appreciate the ways of old but that is not to preclude admitting that some of the new ways are an improvement. We are, after all, particating in an internet forum! Let us celebrate the old and embrace the new. It keeps you young, believe me!

[storeynicholas]

Well, you were named only as the future beneficiary of a pint of Mild ale --- we're now onto PG Wodehouse and American Presidential dress.....
NJS

[storeynicholas]

Well, sartorius, you were named only as the future beneficiary of a pint of Mild ale --- we're now onto PG Wodehouse and American Presidential dress.....
NJS