Tip Top acquisitions, July 28, 2007

"The brute covers himself, the rich man and the fop adorn themselves, the elegant man dresses!"

-Honore de Balzac

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tteplitzmd

Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:40 pm

I saw an interesting cloth a few months ago at Tip Top (thanks to Bry2000) and went back for a second look. I bought it this time as well as three other cloths:

The first a Drapers milled worsted with unusual chalk stripes:

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The second a linen/cotton shirting:

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The third a cotton/cashmere, "cashco" of Italian origin:

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And finally my favorite, an unusual cashmere/silk/linen blend perhaps 8 ounces:

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The latter two I would like to eventually use for Saharianas. Has anyone had one of these made with a lightweight Bemberg lining by a shirtmaker?
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Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:22 pm

Can't help with your question, but please tell more about the cashco. Is it strictly a shirting?
tteplitzmd

Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:48 pm

No, it's too heavy, more like maybe 10-12 ounces, thick. I had slacks made from another color, very soft texture. Sorry the photos are rather close up, I don't know how to control that.
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:29 am

I have cashco pants, run- do not walk- run, to get some of that fabric and have it made into pants, I am calling tip top tomorrow
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:49 am

Congratulations! I love blends, especially linen blends. In this DC heat I've been thinking of having a navy blue blazer made in a linen or hemp blend, perhaps from your recommended tailor, Dr. Teplitz.
tteplitzmd

Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:25 am

Ed, you can walk, you don't have to run in those expensive shoes. They have a book of the cashco, that is, it's a stock item for them. They are all solids, have a soft finish, and a twill like weave. They feel like heavy cotton, just softer. I had Ambrosi make a pair of trousers for me, somewhere in the LL photo'd, they're terrific. Not for summer though. I want a Sahariene made out of Cashco. Who will do this with a lining? Anyone? Anyone?
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:36 pm

Dr. Teplitz, I think a Saharienne WITH lining is very unlikely enterprise to talk a shirtmaker into. I had a hard time persuading mine to make me a normal (shirt-like) one, let alone lining it...
tteplitzmd

Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:52 pm

Costi,

Yes I think you're right, no lining from a shirtmaker. Mr. Alden was successful in having a Roman shirtmaker put a lining in one of his.

What do you think accounts for the resistance to their making even the conventional kind. I don't really understand it. I do recall the photos I think of yours. Very nice.
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:22 pm

Actually I think the double stitching used in shirt-making is more resistant than he simple one typical of suits. Besides, the patch flapped chest pockets and the machine-stitching involved in applying them have the effect of strengthening (or rather stiffening) the chest, similar in a way to what the canvas does to a tailored jacket (provided the cloth has a certain consistency - mine was in linen). Perhaps one of the few cases where machine-stitching is preferrable over hand-stitching (in my opinion).
Why do you think lining would be desirable? Is the cloth scratchy?
tteplitzmd

Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:26 pm

Lining for a heavier variant only. Not really necessary I guess, but in theory you could do the same design in a tweed for example (see Alden's photo somewhere in the LL).
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:19 pm

tteplitzmd wrote:you could do the same design in a tweed for example (see Alden's photo somewhere in the LL).
I haven't seen his tweed saharienne, but I have seen (one of?) his beautiful belted back jacket in heavy tweed with no canvassing and spalla camicia - a thing of beauty really. A shirt-like construction in a heavy tweed looks better to me in the shape of a coat rather than of a saharienne (with its flapped patch pockets and all).
tteplitzmd

Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:33 pm

This is Mr. Alden's lined field jacket, made by a Roman shirtmaker:

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This field jacket is from a book, doubt it is lined:

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Comments? I have some Zegna Trofeo jacketing that I would like to have made into a Sahariana-like filed jacket, preferably lined with light weight Ermezine lining.
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