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Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:54 pm

Any suggestions?

Hotel - Bayerischer Hof vs. The Kempinski vs. The Mandarin Oriental?

Cigars - Looking for a source for havanas.

Shopping - Any ideas welcome.

Thanks.
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Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:48 pm

http://www.max-dietl.de/

he sells brands like Brioni but he has also his own tailoring on the 3th floor. It is German tailoring work but it is very nice a friend of me has some suits of his tailoring program.


http://www.emanuelberg-muenchen.de/

Here can you buy beautifully bespoke shirts they have a perfect fit a better fit than the big brands bespoke shirts. He sells also a nice sellection ties.


And of course there is a Kiton brandstore it is located on the Oskar von Miller ring.
www.kiton.it

And don't forget Eduard Meier http://www.edmeier.de/
The best shoemaker/store of Germany.


Enjoy your trip to Munich it is a wonderfull city!
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Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:50 pm

Before I forget the best shops are beside and on the Maximilanstrasse :wink:
You will find there also the store's I suggest to you.
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:58 am

The "Bayrischer Hof" is very elegant and comfortable at the same time. The food in the "Vier Jahrszeiten" is great too though I have enever spent a night there. The "Mandarin" I have heard is one of the best hotels in town.

Eduard Meier is a nice shop though better for browsing than for actual shopping as they are quite overpriced (Alden cordovan shoes for EUR 800,--!).

You may als visit the "Fuenf Höfe" which is a kind of arcade in the center of the town. There is a Zegna boutique inside; if you like a RTW garment (sales usually begin not too long after Christmas) the shop`s tailor - Salvatore - will work at it until it fits you perfectly. He is a nice and verrry able fellow (a true master tailor form Naples), tell him I recommended him.
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:38 pm

Hotel - Bayerischer Hof vs. The Kempinski vs. The Mandarin Oriental?

All three are 5 star hotels and you can't go wrong with any of them, but that said,
The Bayerischer Hof is the closest hotel to the cities poshed shops, the Kempinski (although wonderful) lacks the residential elegance of the Mandarin Oriental, and although I love the Mandarin hotel chain, as of late, we've had a few complaints about the inconsistant service at that hotel.

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Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:50 pm

In the luxury category you should add the Königshof. The building is ugly but the service is the best in town. The Mandarin comes closest to my idea of luxury in terms of looks and location, but like most Munich hotels suffers from occasional and inexplicable lapses of standards (e.g. starting to relay the tables for breakfast while customers are still dining).

In terms of clothes, Munich loves Kiton and Attolini. The former has a flagship store, the latter is sold in numerous shops in town. There is a lso a large Zegna branch. Loden-Frey is too mid-market for me.

Add Reiser in the Lehel district to shirts, they do bespoke and can even ake buttonholes by hand. Never tried them, though, but a friend with an exceedingly dicerning taste gets her blouses there.

Do not forget that Meier does not manufacture their own shoes. I think theer are better options at that price level, though not necessarily in Munich.

For Restaurants, traditional luxury can be found at Tantris, Marks, Königshof, Halali, Schuhbecks.
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Add Reiser in the Lehel district to shirts, they do bespoke and can even ake buttonholes by hand. Never tried them, though, but a friend with an exceedingly dicerning taste gets her blouses there.

I am also a Reiser customer. :lol: When you are interested in bespoke shirts ask for Mrs. Fent, the others only do MTM shirts and suits. Mrs. Fent will certainly show you around the workrooms in the basement.

www.reiser-manufaktur.de
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:52 pm

Thanks to all for the suggestions.

It was a very busy trip, and I did not get a chance to see or do anything. I'd leave the hotel in the morning when the shops were closed and come back after the shops were closed.

The Vier Jahreszeiten was a pit and should be scratched off the list. Carey car service did a good job as usual.
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:55 pm

Just a comment: I had a very nice stay at the Kempinski, I was very impressed with the service and the room was very nice. I had planned to stay at the Mandarin which proceeded to not honor my reservation. A complex story and a sad story. Evidently a "confirmed" reservation meant little to the G.M. of the Mandarin (they were overbooked with a diplomatic entrourage which extended their stay). Mandarin kindly picked up my tab for the Kempinski.
Mandarin Oriental in Hong Kong is top of the line. They have expanded quite a bit and lost some of the luster evident when the chain was smaller. Had a very unpleasant stay at the Turnberry Isle in Florida some years ago when it was part of the Mandarin Group.

Management at the Mandarin Oriental Group tends towards the austere. Part of the downward drift and reversion to the mean in luxury hotels.

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Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:12 pm

I will have to back to Munich, and will probably stay at the Bayerischer Hof.

I guess I should have been a little more pointed about the Kempinski. My room was 4 shades of brown without any other colors. The bed was uncomfortable and the linen scratchy. It was not a real king size bed, but rather two twins pushed together. Several of auto-dial buttons on the phone did not work. I did not think there was enough light in the bathroom. Also the rugs in the hallways are worn out. The hotel bar was too dark and not in a good way. Apparently there are rooms on the upper floors (I was on 6) that have been totally remodeled and are quite nice. I would have moved the bar up a floor so that it over looks the Maximillianstrasse.
There were some good points. The water pressure was fine. The window opened up completely. I was the kind of place that you just look around and think that with a little bit more effort and with not a lot more money, the place could be really great and trade on its long history. I also say the same things about the Mark Hopkins, St. Francis, and Waldorf Towers.

Finally, Lufthansa’s “Lie Flat Bed” in business was odd.
tteplitzmd

Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:33 pm

I should have added that I was on one of the upper floors, remodeled, and I was substantially upgraded. The Staff was very attentive. The common areas are rather pedestrian, but I must say, for a 'business hotel' they were very attentive.
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:26 am

The Vier Jahreszeiten is being substantially rebuilt right now (while continuing business) to address the room issues mentioned here. I hope they are good at multi-tasking.

Personally, I stay at the Cortiina. It is small and modern, and service is not five stars, but then it is not meant to be. When and where it matters, the staff do their utmost to please. For those who love old school Grand Hotel, I reiterate they should try the Koenigshof.
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Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:49 pm

The Vier Jahreszeiten (Kempinski) is indeed undergoing a remodel. Apparently, I again was in one of older rooms. Again, the telephone did not work well. Room service continues to need a lot of help. The room was too dark. The laundry service ok if you like the strong scent of soap. All of those items are not as important as the bed, which still too hard with sandpaper grade sheets.

Hopefully on my next trip, I can try the other suggestions.
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Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:59 pm

Hartline wrote:The Vier Jahreszeiten (Kempinski) is indeed undergoing a remodel. Apparently, I again was in one of older rooms. Again, the telephone did not work well. Room service continues to need a lot of help. The room was too dark. The laundry service ok if you like the strong scent of soap. All of those items are not as important as the bed, which still too hard with sandpaper grade sheets.

Hopefully on my next trip, I can try the other suggestions.
I'll be in The Admiral tomorrow for two nights and report afterwards.

Paul
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Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:50 pm

Last week I found a new address in Munich:

www.werner-scherer.de

Werner Scherer
Platzl 5
80331 Munchen
Telephone: +49 (89) 22 18 24


He is famous for his shirts. I bougth two shirts and two ties very nice stuff!

The ties are from wonderfull thick silk and there is a big choice from classy sober to happy colorfull.

The shirts are wonderfully handmade and have a very, very good fit!


This store is a must when you are in Munich! :D
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