Velvet Collar on Covert

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Very nice high button stance.

Really? It doesn't strike me as particularly high...

I like the foulard and the way it is worn.

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A lot of the RTW covert coat options in the market (like Cordings') are somewhat light in weight. If one were to go bespoke (I am thinking of a DB), which merchant carries really nice covert cloth (Smiths?) and at which weight?

It's supposed to be a topcoat rather than an overcoat.

Hardy or Minnis has one in 18 ounces.

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Dark brown on mine.

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My Cordings covert coat has no velvet collar. It gets worn during Autumn and Winter whilst the temperature is above freezing and the days are dry.

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There are numerous types of covert cloth, and most of them tend to be in the light to medium range. Covert can have a dry finish or a slightly fluffy one. With a dry finish and heavier weight, the look tends towards whipcord.

My personal preference is for rather lightweight (I love a Super 100s I got from Smith & Co), because I tend to use covert coats as a spring & autumn coat. For winter, meltons and heavy herringbones, camelhairs and cashmeres are more suitable in my view, because those cloths are softer and therefore more comfortable to wear than an equivalent weight covert. But that is personal prefence.

For collar, all my single breasted coats have velvet collars matching the colour of the cloth. If you pull up your collar, the velvet is much warmer and mor comfortable than self cloth. I am not so sure about contrasting velvets.

TVD

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TVD, what weight is your covert coat made from the Smiths' cloth? Do you consider 18oz. covert cloth as too heavy?

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I would also vote for the weight sold by Cordings, which is a lighter weight covert.

Defintely with a velvet collar, in dark brown or forest green, yet even a burgundy or such, which highlights the face would be interesting. The fawn brown color of covert is a bit drab and why cheer it up and inject it with a bit of spirit with a colorful collar.

Indeed, covert seems to me an Autumn/Spring coat and really very versatile except for the most bitter cold days.

In London, one can really wear covert cloth in a lighter weight such as Cordings is famous for throughout most of the Winter.

Buy it in one size larger than your coat and you are set!

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Sorry, I do not recall the exact weight of the Smith & Co covert, but it is very light. Perfect for London for most of the winter, definitely an autumn / spring one on the continent.

TVD

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My question is, have velvet collars long been a part of the covert coat 'look' or is it just sort of a decorative and modern take on the covert?

Tutee's excellent post "Vol. II No. III (Feb 06') Late Winter / Spring Items AA" includes this illustration from 1936, which he captions as "he most traditional and correct version of covert cloth topcoat that you can imagine. Pictured here in the vicinage of St. James palace." So while the velvet collar may have a long history, the correctness of the sans-velvet version would seem to be well established by the mid-'30s:

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My question is, have velvet collars long been a part of the covert coat 'look' or is it just sort of a decorative and modern take on the covert?

Tutee's excellent post "Vol. II No. III (Feb 06') Late Winter / Spring Items AA" includes this illustration from 1936, which he captions as "the most traditional and correct version of covert cloth topcoat that you can imagine. Pictured here in the vicinage of St. James palace." So while the velvet collar may have a long history, the correctness of the sans-velvet version would seem to be well established by the mid-'30s:

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Sorry about the double post. Tried to edit a typo.