Vol. II No. III (Feb 06') Late Winter / Spring Items AA
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:50 pm
Dear Members,
Here is the latest addition of the AA/Esky series. Since it is almost spring time we will wrap up with the last of winter articles in this post. This edition is divided into four sections, the first one covers fabrics for fall, the second one over Scotch patterns & British Regimentals, the third one over Spring Survey with illustrations and finally the last one over Palm Beach season preview. It is a VERY detailed post and took some 50+ hours of work to create. Hopefully, you will find what is presented below of interest and will learn from it.
The first section is actually an expansion from its earlier portion (see university styles post… section III on tweeds).
University Styles post
Interestingly enough, in section I of this post there is a discussion for black suiting also. This is explained with illustrations and probably will be one of the rarest times when this is covered.
In addition, you will note the new numbering system for these articles (title heading). This is like the original AA format. You may call it a cheap thrill if you like…
But it is done so that while browsing through the article section you can tell in which order they were presented. Each year will have a specific vol. number…such that the first years (05’) posts will be denoted by Vol. I, the (06’) by Vol. II and so on… Then in each specific year, every post will be numbered (chronologically) regardless of the subject. Now, bare in mind that this numbering has nothing to do with AA’s actual numbering, it is purely for the convenience of this forum and will also help the new arriving members when browsing through them.
Moreover, I have been asked if there is a reason why I tend to focus on articles / text from early 30s only (usually pre 35’)… is there a reason for this? The answer is… yes. The idea is to move in a (at least somewhat) systematic order, such that articles / text from early issues are used up first before proceeding onto later ones. Once all the worthy articles from earlier years have been used (& this may take a long while) we cam move onwards. For illustrations of course it is slightly different. It is rather hard to present them in perfect order. Reason being, these were originally published as new things and ideas evolved or came about… but seven decades later we don’t have to wait for that. We have all the info… and if a topic is under discussion, it is rather silly not to present an example from later issues…esp. if there is one available. Now, that does not mean that for the articles there will be strict linear pattern… quite the contrary… if there is a topic under discussion and text is needed (that is only available in later issues), it will be presented right away without any reluctance. But… without any specific need, the articles will be in a slight chronological order.
Well… that pretty much takes cares of the matters at hand and now…
let us start!
The original text is in italics, click on the links for additional pictures / articles.
From late fall of 34’
FABRICS FOR WINTER
New features and old ones revived combine to make the coming season a promising one.
When winter comes, it usually brings snow and hard finished worsteds. This winter will be no exception. But while worsteds will respond to the natural stimulus of the season, the popularity of rougher and softer suitings bids fair to continue without abatement through the cold months. The ranking members of the tweed family, the cheviots Shetlands, and Irish mixtures are the preferred rough fabrics for winter suitings, although dark colored flannel will find their way to the racks of many a smart retailer.
Nevertheless, knockout drops have not been administered to winter worsteds. To many men, a winter without worsteds would be like a winter without overcoats. But even the worsteds have caught something of the more casual spirit of the softer fabrics, and their uninteresting patterns have given way to small neat color stripes and over plaids. The perennial blue worsteds, too, will carry similar striping effects, and black worsted suitings* are seen with spaced groups of white or colored stripes.
*This business of black patterned suiting is explained a few paragraphs below in detail.
After an eclipse of more than a decade, a revival of exceeding interest is the Irish nubbed Donegal tweed. This fabric with its characteristic colored flecks and its rough surface still carries the hallmark of its home spun origin. Heretofore, Irish Donegals have appeared in the customary basket weave, but many of them are now being executed in the new herringbone patterns. While they have retained their rugged appearance they seem to have taken on new attractiveness.
Irish Donegals, of course, are not the only country fabrics being favored. The popular Scottish district plaids, considerably lighter in weight, are seen wherever the sporting gentry of the English countryside come together. Of many district patterns the small double toned 2x2 check with brightly colored overplaids seems to be the most popular.
In connection with the subject of district plaids, it may be mentioned that fashion scouts have noticed them at English sporting events made up into jackets cut like riding sacques. There are the same slanting pockets, the side vents, and the wide flares at the bottoms. Waistcoats of the same material are tailored in postboy fashion, and the trousers are conspicuous with open lap seams.
A striking feature of the London season, and a radical departure from the customary flannels, are the new black flannel suitings with vertical white or colored stripes.* Advance reports from Bond Street and Savile Row indicate that black flannels have been made an immediate hit with some of the best dressed men in London.
*Now then… here is a topic worthy of explanation. Of all the unusual things (button-down shirts with suit etc.) Americans are credited with… this above, however, is a genuine West-End London invention. It was seen there first, became popular with their younger set and eventually made its way, westward across the pond.
First let me be very clear about this. All of the examples (of what was seen) indicate the use of patterned black fabrics for suitings. Solid black suitings were NEVER observed. Much ink have been spilled on these fora about black suits but all of that revolves around the use of solid black for suits. I am certainly not going to touch on that… and will totally leave it to your fancy. Personally speaking, I don’t own a black suit and don’t think will be getting one anytime soon… especially a solid black.
Patterned black suitings… esp. flannel with a chalk stripe are somewhat different, although not much. Most of these stripes on black suitings were seen in a close double-stripe or tripe-stripe pattern. Almost always the model used was a double breasted (sometimes with a vest) cut along very metropolitan lines. But that was seven decades ago… much has happened since then. If there is something that has been overused in these last few decades… one of them is black in menswear. It certainly doesn’t seem like a “novel” idea these days. However, if you are bent on using a black striped suit there is a way to make it work.
Generally speaking try to omit worsteds in black altogether… nothing new there. If you must, then use very faint and discreet stripes. Rougher fabrics in black are easier to use and surely not that common either.
(Stay with me on this one and use you imagination in the best possible way. If you do this… you may conceive something different)
For example, try a heavy “fuzz” flannel with a faint chalk stripe in pearl / grey (Very rare and therefore quite unique). Where you can find this… that I don’t know. Once you have a heavy black flannel with grey chalk stripes… use light grey shirts (to pick up the color of the stripes) and for a dashing look add grey-black & white combination tie… preferably in Macclesfield like pattern… to complete the look. You can opt for silver in ties but don’t go to the shiny ones. Similarly, forget solid red in ties or plain white in shirts. Why? Done way too often… and usually in bad taste. While you are at it… try to let go of the white chalk stripes also. I am sure, nobody here will argue those in favor of grey chalk stripes. For shirts as an alternative… use white collar & cuffs with a grey body (either striped or solid). You do this correctly and nobody will ever yell “Scarface.”
All of this above is suggested and advisable for evening events only. See below for illustrations.
Resuming with the fabrics article.
Besides the night-shade flannels, the English market has shown a definite preference for cheviots and tweeds of all categories, particularly favoring those with spaced colored stripes. An interesting example of spaced striping is brown cheviot fabric carrying a three quarter inch stripe of gold alternating with a stripe of red. Another popular favorite is the blue cheviot with alternating stripes of grey and yellow. Subdued Glen Urquharts and overplaids, generally in a blue-grey mixture, are also London headliners.
Mention has already been made of the introduction of herringbone weave into Irish Donegals. All along the line, herringbone seems to be given more prominence than any other definite pattern. Although the size of the pattern varies, it is generally reproduced in black and white and brown and fawn.
Rougher fabrics always demand color. In the country this season, special interest will be centered around the Lovat green shades. Grey-greens and blue-greens are the most representative shades in this family. Although they lend themselves ideally to cheviots, other tweeds and flannels are made up in these colors, and are often set off strikingly with colored stripes and plaids.
As in past seasons, blues and blacks will reign predominately in town with a marked trend being manifest toward blue-gray patterned fabrics. While browns are usually preferred in the country, this season will see brown checks, plaids, and stripes hold a position second only to blues and blacks in the metropolitan areas. Little excitement seems to be aroused by grey-colored suiting in town with the exception of some grey touched up with stripe or check effects.
The wave of rough fabrics which seems to have reached tidal proportions this season has swept overcoats and topcoats along with it. Harris tweeds which yield an odor of burning peat in damp weather, roomy Shetlands, cheviots, and Irish tweeds are still in the ascendancy. This winter, patterns will figure importantly in the fashion picture with an interesting trend to colorful plaid backs. Glen Urquharts, herringbones, over plaids, and diagonal twills still maintain their popularity.
The prestige of the navy blue guard’s coat will be enhanced by its return to favor this season. Likewise for more formal town wear, soft heavy fabrics, notably chinchilla,* will be widely favored. For formal evening occasions the man about town will wear a Cashmere coat either in a diagonal or herringbone weave, only in oxford grey.
*Chinchilla: It is a thick, heavy double woven fabric, with a napped surface rolled into little tufts. It based on the name of a small animal from South America whose fur this fabric’s texture seem to resemble.
Bad weather in town, or any country event, will call out the Ulster, or great coat, which is enjoying a revival. Bold pattern fleeces and heavy tweeds, of course, lend themselves most favorably to these huge overcoats. Over sized plaids and Glen Urquharts, in addition to the herringbone, are the patterns most frequently followed.
Since black striped suiting was mentioned above… for the sake of clarity let me present two illustrations of these fancy stripes. This first one is from Early 34’.
Image 6-25-18 at 8.21 AM by The London Lounge, on Flickr
This is a black DB suit with double stripe that is quite well defined. Jacket carries 6 buttons and both the middle and the bottom one is buttoned. It is non vented at the back but can carry side vents. Pockets are jetted and pants carry cuffs. Shirt is black and white stripe with dark dotted motif tie.
There is a fixed place in the scheme of men’s things for shirts with stripes. Just now the stripes are a little brighter than they have been and the collars are somewhat shorter. This collar can be worn without a pin, but it looks a lot better and has a different touch if a heavy gold safety pin is used with it.
Gloves are of off-white color in chamois with buck as an alternative. Shoes are black on a town last. The topcoat can be blue or black, and the smart dressed set preferred a contrasting lining in heavy hound’s tooth checked fabric. For Lovat type cloths and the tweeds in topcoats (both town or country wear) the linings are of colorful Scotch. The derby is with a flat brim with only a slight curl and the crown has a tendency to bell. Note the over all metropolitan lines of this suit and according accessories. Take note of the shoulder lines also.
For those of you wondering about the color of braces with this type of a suiting… you would be surprised to know that they suggested brown leather braces.
Somehow that very masculine article braces, take on a sort of cave man air when they are made of leather. Leather, the first material for garments of any kind (leaves barred), has never been displaced, nor it will be. These braces, beside being of a grand reddish shade of leather, have buckles made of the same material and they are soft and flexible. A rather elegant idea.
You can let go of these very old fashioned braces and opt for box cloth ones too. This was presented so that you know how far the scheme of brown and black goes.
In addition to this double stripe depicted above, there was a triple close stripe suiting also. This is from summer 36’
Image 6-25-18 at 8.21 AM (1) by The London Lounge, on Flickr
Here this is a direct importation from West-End London. This one is a DB 3-pc suit with a long roll lapel buttoned at the bottom button. 4 buttons here on the jacket instead of 6. Note that the shirt and tie scheme is exactly what I asked you to imagine (above in the article).
In addition to this you should note that the general outline of the clothing is changed slightly from the waisted effect to one that emphasizes a definite taper from shoulder to bottom of the jacket. This, also, was observed in England first… especially at International Hurlingham Polo Matches 1936.
View this link to see the outlining sketches.
Image 6-25-18 at 8.22 AM by The London Lounge, on Flickr
This should give you a clear cut idea as to how these suits were presented. Again, these days it is best to skip them altogether unless of course if you can find something unique as black w/ grey chalk stripe or similar effect.
Well… that was about fall fabrics. Let us move on to section II of this post.
END OF SECTION I OF THIS POST
Here is the latest addition of the AA/Esky series. Since it is almost spring time we will wrap up with the last of winter articles in this post. This edition is divided into four sections, the first one covers fabrics for fall, the second one over Scotch patterns & British Regimentals, the third one over Spring Survey with illustrations and finally the last one over Palm Beach season preview. It is a VERY detailed post and took some 50+ hours of work to create. Hopefully, you will find what is presented below of interest and will learn from it.
The first section is actually an expansion from its earlier portion (see university styles post… section III on tweeds).
University Styles post
Interestingly enough, in section I of this post there is a discussion for black suiting also. This is explained with illustrations and probably will be one of the rarest times when this is covered.
In addition, you will note the new numbering system for these articles (title heading). This is like the original AA format. You may call it a cheap thrill if you like…
But it is done so that while browsing through the article section you can tell in which order they were presented. Each year will have a specific vol. number…such that the first years (05’) posts will be denoted by Vol. I, the (06’) by Vol. II and so on… Then in each specific year, every post will be numbered (chronologically) regardless of the subject. Now, bare in mind that this numbering has nothing to do with AA’s actual numbering, it is purely for the convenience of this forum and will also help the new arriving members when browsing through them.
Moreover, I have been asked if there is a reason why I tend to focus on articles / text from early 30s only (usually pre 35’)… is there a reason for this? The answer is… yes. The idea is to move in a (at least somewhat) systematic order, such that articles / text from early issues are used up first before proceeding onto later ones. Once all the worthy articles from earlier years have been used (& this may take a long while) we cam move onwards. For illustrations of course it is slightly different. It is rather hard to present them in perfect order. Reason being, these were originally published as new things and ideas evolved or came about… but seven decades later we don’t have to wait for that. We have all the info… and if a topic is under discussion, it is rather silly not to present an example from later issues…esp. if there is one available. Now, that does not mean that for the articles there will be strict linear pattern… quite the contrary… if there is a topic under discussion and text is needed (that is only available in later issues), it will be presented right away without any reluctance. But… without any specific need, the articles will be in a slight chronological order.
Well… that pretty much takes cares of the matters at hand and now…
let us start!
The original text is in italics, click on the links for additional pictures / articles.
From late fall of 34’
FABRICS FOR WINTER
New features and old ones revived combine to make the coming season a promising one.
When winter comes, it usually brings snow and hard finished worsteds. This winter will be no exception. But while worsteds will respond to the natural stimulus of the season, the popularity of rougher and softer suitings bids fair to continue without abatement through the cold months. The ranking members of the tweed family, the cheviots Shetlands, and Irish mixtures are the preferred rough fabrics for winter suitings, although dark colored flannel will find their way to the racks of many a smart retailer.
Nevertheless, knockout drops have not been administered to winter worsteds. To many men, a winter without worsteds would be like a winter without overcoats. But even the worsteds have caught something of the more casual spirit of the softer fabrics, and their uninteresting patterns have given way to small neat color stripes and over plaids. The perennial blue worsteds, too, will carry similar striping effects, and black worsted suitings* are seen with spaced groups of white or colored stripes.
*This business of black patterned suiting is explained a few paragraphs below in detail.
After an eclipse of more than a decade, a revival of exceeding interest is the Irish nubbed Donegal tweed. This fabric with its characteristic colored flecks and its rough surface still carries the hallmark of its home spun origin. Heretofore, Irish Donegals have appeared in the customary basket weave, but many of them are now being executed in the new herringbone patterns. While they have retained their rugged appearance they seem to have taken on new attractiveness.
Irish Donegals, of course, are not the only country fabrics being favored. The popular Scottish district plaids, considerably lighter in weight, are seen wherever the sporting gentry of the English countryside come together. Of many district patterns the small double toned 2x2 check with brightly colored overplaids seems to be the most popular.
In connection with the subject of district plaids, it may be mentioned that fashion scouts have noticed them at English sporting events made up into jackets cut like riding sacques. There are the same slanting pockets, the side vents, and the wide flares at the bottoms. Waistcoats of the same material are tailored in postboy fashion, and the trousers are conspicuous with open lap seams.
A striking feature of the London season, and a radical departure from the customary flannels, are the new black flannel suitings with vertical white or colored stripes.* Advance reports from Bond Street and Savile Row indicate that black flannels have been made an immediate hit with some of the best dressed men in London.
*Now then… here is a topic worthy of explanation. Of all the unusual things (button-down shirts with suit etc.) Americans are credited with… this above, however, is a genuine West-End London invention. It was seen there first, became popular with their younger set and eventually made its way, westward across the pond.
First let me be very clear about this. All of the examples (of what was seen) indicate the use of patterned black fabrics for suitings. Solid black suitings were NEVER observed. Much ink have been spilled on these fora about black suits but all of that revolves around the use of solid black for suits. I am certainly not going to touch on that… and will totally leave it to your fancy. Personally speaking, I don’t own a black suit and don’t think will be getting one anytime soon… especially a solid black.
Patterned black suitings… esp. flannel with a chalk stripe are somewhat different, although not much. Most of these stripes on black suitings were seen in a close double-stripe or tripe-stripe pattern. Almost always the model used was a double breasted (sometimes with a vest) cut along very metropolitan lines. But that was seven decades ago… much has happened since then. If there is something that has been overused in these last few decades… one of them is black in menswear. It certainly doesn’t seem like a “novel” idea these days. However, if you are bent on using a black striped suit there is a way to make it work.
Generally speaking try to omit worsteds in black altogether… nothing new there. If you must, then use very faint and discreet stripes. Rougher fabrics in black are easier to use and surely not that common either.
(Stay with me on this one and use you imagination in the best possible way. If you do this… you may conceive something different)
For example, try a heavy “fuzz” flannel with a faint chalk stripe in pearl / grey (Very rare and therefore quite unique). Where you can find this… that I don’t know. Once you have a heavy black flannel with grey chalk stripes… use light grey shirts (to pick up the color of the stripes) and for a dashing look add grey-black & white combination tie… preferably in Macclesfield like pattern… to complete the look. You can opt for silver in ties but don’t go to the shiny ones. Similarly, forget solid red in ties or plain white in shirts. Why? Done way too often… and usually in bad taste. While you are at it… try to let go of the white chalk stripes also. I am sure, nobody here will argue those in favor of grey chalk stripes. For shirts as an alternative… use white collar & cuffs with a grey body (either striped or solid). You do this correctly and nobody will ever yell “Scarface.”
All of this above is suggested and advisable for evening events only. See below for illustrations.
Resuming with the fabrics article.
Besides the night-shade flannels, the English market has shown a definite preference for cheviots and tweeds of all categories, particularly favoring those with spaced colored stripes. An interesting example of spaced striping is brown cheviot fabric carrying a three quarter inch stripe of gold alternating with a stripe of red. Another popular favorite is the blue cheviot with alternating stripes of grey and yellow. Subdued Glen Urquharts and overplaids, generally in a blue-grey mixture, are also London headliners.
Mention has already been made of the introduction of herringbone weave into Irish Donegals. All along the line, herringbone seems to be given more prominence than any other definite pattern. Although the size of the pattern varies, it is generally reproduced in black and white and brown and fawn.
Rougher fabrics always demand color. In the country this season, special interest will be centered around the Lovat green shades. Grey-greens and blue-greens are the most representative shades in this family. Although they lend themselves ideally to cheviots, other tweeds and flannels are made up in these colors, and are often set off strikingly with colored stripes and plaids.
As in past seasons, blues and blacks will reign predominately in town with a marked trend being manifest toward blue-gray patterned fabrics. While browns are usually preferred in the country, this season will see brown checks, plaids, and stripes hold a position second only to blues and blacks in the metropolitan areas. Little excitement seems to be aroused by grey-colored suiting in town with the exception of some grey touched up with stripe or check effects.
The wave of rough fabrics which seems to have reached tidal proportions this season has swept overcoats and topcoats along with it. Harris tweeds which yield an odor of burning peat in damp weather, roomy Shetlands, cheviots, and Irish tweeds are still in the ascendancy. This winter, patterns will figure importantly in the fashion picture with an interesting trend to colorful plaid backs. Glen Urquharts, herringbones, over plaids, and diagonal twills still maintain their popularity.
The prestige of the navy blue guard’s coat will be enhanced by its return to favor this season. Likewise for more formal town wear, soft heavy fabrics, notably chinchilla,* will be widely favored. For formal evening occasions the man about town will wear a Cashmere coat either in a diagonal or herringbone weave, only in oxford grey.
*Chinchilla: It is a thick, heavy double woven fabric, with a napped surface rolled into little tufts. It based on the name of a small animal from South America whose fur this fabric’s texture seem to resemble.
Bad weather in town, or any country event, will call out the Ulster, or great coat, which is enjoying a revival. Bold pattern fleeces and heavy tweeds, of course, lend themselves most favorably to these huge overcoats. Over sized plaids and Glen Urquharts, in addition to the herringbone, are the patterns most frequently followed.
Since black striped suiting was mentioned above… for the sake of clarity let me present two illustrations of these fancy stripes. This first one is from Early 34’.
Image 6-25-18 at 8.21 AM by The London Lounge, on Flickr
This is a black DB suit with double stripe that is quite well defined. Jacket carries 6 buttons and both the middle and the bottom one is buttoned. It is non vented at the back but can carry side vents. Pockets are jetted and pants carry cuffs. Shirt is black and white stripe with dark dotted motif tie.
There is a fixed place in the scheme of men’s things for shirts with stripes. Just now the stripes are a little brighter than they have been and the collars are somewhat shorter. This collar can be worn without a pin, but it looks a lot better and has a different touch if a heavy gold safety pin is used with it.
Gloves are of off-white color in chamois with buck as an alternative. Shoes are black on a town last. The topcoat can be blue or black, and the smart dressed set preferred a contrasting lining in heavy hound’s tooth checked fabric. For Lovat type cloths and the tweeds in topcoats (both town or country wear) the linings are of colorful Scotch. The derby is with a flat brim with only a slight curl and the crown has a tendency to bell. Note the over all metropolitan lines of this suit and according accessories. Take note of the shoulder lines also.
For those of you wondering about the color of braces with this type of a suiting… you would be surprised to know that they suggested brown leather braces.
Somehow that very masculine article braces, take on a sort of cave man air when they are made of leather. Leather, the first material for garments of any kind (leaves barred), has never been displaced, nor it will be. These braces, beside being of a grand reddish shade of leather, have buckles made of the same material and they are soft and flexible. A rather elegant idea.
You can let go of these very old fashioned braces and opt for box cloth ones too. This was presented so that you know how far the scheme of brown and black goes.
In addition to this double stripe depicted above, there was a triple close stripe suiting also. This is from summer 36’
Image 6-25-18 at 8.21 AM (1) by The London Lounge, on Flickr
Here this is a direct importation from West-End London. This one is a DB 3-pc suit with a long roll lapel buttoned at the bottom button. 4 buttons here on the jacket instead of 6. Note that the shirt and tie scheme is exactly what I asked you to imagine (above in the article).
In addition to this you should note that the general outline of the clothing is changed slightly from the waisted effect to one that emphasizes a definite taper from shoulder to bottom of the jacket. This, also, was observed in England first… especially at International Hurlingham Polo Matches 1936.
View this link to see the outlining sketches.
Image 6-25-18 at 8.22 AM by The London Lounge, on Flickr
This should give you a clear cut idea as to how these suits were presented. Again, these days it is best to skip them altogether unless of course if you can find something unique as black w/ grey chalk stripe or similar effect.
Well… that was about fall fabrics. Let us move on to section II of this post.
END OF SECTION I OF THIS POST