The London Lounge

Having fun in the pattern development basted phase. Adjustments are being made.

Trousers and shorts are obviously more easy to do than jackets.

For me pertinent operating principles include a well fitting seat, the fact that my right hip is curvier than my left, and a slight bow legged stance.

Not only is the fit specific, but any detailing one might wish for (e.g. extra pockets) can also be done.

Seat


Trousers


Shorts


- M

I like the look of the shorts, will they be cuffed? Also, what cloth are they made out of? The same as the suit?

Jon makes a short which is fully handmade. Incredible workmanship.

Mark Seitelman wrote: Incredible workmanship.

At his prices, that should be the minimum expectation.

Your trousers look great (of course, the length still needs to be set). I also like your shorts, though I would prefer them a bit shorter and with a fuller leg.
Trousers are by no means easier to cut and make than jackets and trousers that both look flattering AND are comfortable to wear (when walking, sittingetc.) are relatively rare, so enjoy the experience if you found a good maker.

pvpatty wrote:the shorts, will they be cuffed? Also, what cloth are they made out of? The same as the suit?

The shorts will not be cuffed (minimalist taste), and although side tabs will be made they will be saved for later if I might need them, thus keeping a clean waistband. I've requested a few odd trousers in wools and cotton, and shorts in cotton (shown) and linens (one in the same fabric as the grey linen suit).

Concordia wrote:

Mark Seitelman wrote: Incredible workmanship.

At his prices, that should be the minimum expectation.

As a consumer, I wouldn't pay for what I've seen and read of other bespoke operations for what they say they can do and their actual product (except perhaps Ambrosi), but I have no problem with Jon's prices as his products are what he says he can do. Jon's sensitivity and production of his clients' "bespoke sensitivities" set him apart. Looking around his atelier you see all sorts of different shapes and style choices hanging on the racks, pointing to his uniqueness in being able to do this at the highest quality.

Within the pricing structure is Jon's ability to get the suit just enough in one or two fittings, or four to five fittings and after wear changes. For example, the second suit he made for me had a closer chest/waist fit such that Jon offered to shape the first suit's chest/waist even more. What's that motto? Passionate Pursuit of Perfection?

Costi wrote:Your trousers look great, so enjoy the experience if you found a good maker.

Thank you. I certainly do.

- M

I assume that that back pocket was about to gain a button? Without it looks unfinished to me.

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DFR wrote:I assume that that back pocket was about to gain a button? Without it looks unfinished to me.
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For now, I don't use my hip pockets at all. So the double besoms are there and sewn shut until that day when I might need them.

I don't specify hip pockets on my suits, only on odd trousers and shorts.

- M

mmkn2 wrote:Within the pricing structure is Jon's ability to get the suit just enough in one or two fittings, or four to five fittings and after wear changes. For example, the second suit he made for me had a closer chest/waist fit such that Jon offered to shape the first suit's chest/waist even more. What's that motto? Passionate Pursuit of Perfection?

I don't think this is unique to Jon Green. It's typical to require and make tweaks after you've worn a suit or jacket for a while.

mafoofan wrote: I don't think this is unique to Jon Green. It's typical to require and make tweaks after you've worn a suit or jacket for a while.

You are probably correct, Matt.

I wrote the above based only on my past experiences with MTM and pseudo-custom programs that were ultimately more salesmanship than workmanship.

I have to say that despite built in business pricings, there is always the risk of this, that strange thing I call client/maker chemistry, that makes the final product less than desired.

- M