In this little potted overview of different types of coat I am aware I have left out many different types of overcoat. Please feel welcome to contribute to make the thread more complete. Once again - enjoy! And if you really like it consider printing the illustrations out and taking it to your tailor. More tailors' patterns can be posted at your request for some of these garments.
1. The Frock Overcoat or Top Frock Coat (Taglioni Great Coat after Minister, 1853)
The frock overcoat was cut like a frock coat except a little longer to reach below the knees. Note the absence of the side pockets in the first example and of a chest pocket in the second. Frock coats (and dress coats) traditionally have no external pockets at all.
Here is a pattern for a frock overcoat (from the Gentleman's Magazine of Fashion, November 1850):
Of all types of overcoats the frock overcoat is the most formal as outlined in the magazine Fashion from England dated 1902. However, by the time this chart was in print, the Chesterfield had rapidly gained acceptability for wear with full dress both during the day and for the evening:
2. The Paletot
Notice the presence of side bodies visible from the back. Double breasted paletots did also exist. Single breasted paletots were made with a fly front. The presence of the seam which descended from the arm-hole to the top of the flapped pocket at the hip is another characteristic. The paletot had dual side vents in contrast to the single centre vent of the Chesterfield.
The following pattern comes from Edward Minister (1853):
3. The Paddock Coat (Double Breasted Version Shown)
Here is a pattern for a paddock coat dated 1893:
The paddock coat and paletot were distinguished by purists from the fact that a paletot had side bodies which allowed greater waist suppression. However, the two terms were generally used interchangeably:
4. The Chesterfield Coat (Oversack in American English)
Both the single breasted fly-front version and the double breasted version are shown:
The single breasted coat on the right is unusual in what appear to be satin faced lapels rather than the usual velvet collar as in the examples to the left and in the centre.
5. The Ulster Overcoat
6.The Inverness Cape
The Inverness cape differs from the Ulster coat in that the latter has sleeves. The Inverness was often made in solid dark colours and worn with full dress.
7. The Opera Coat
8. The Cleric Coat
Originally a livery coat for coachmen it later became a fashion item in the late 18th century.
George Augustus Sala wrote lamenting its demise in 1859:
This venerable garment had a cape, which, in wet or snowy weather, when travelling outside the 'Highlander' coach, you turned over your head. Your father wore it before you , and you hoped to leave it to your eldest son. Solemn repairs - careful renovations of buttons and braidings were done to it, from time to time. A new great coat was an event - a thing to be remembered as happening once or so in a lifetime
This one dates from 1812:
This elegant example dates from the 1820-30s (it is said to have belonged to a woman but the way the buttons close suggest it may have more likely belonged to a man):
9. The Fur Lined Great Coat
This went by various inconsistent names eg pilot coat, pellise. Definitions for these term are too contradictory for them to be useful.
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Fantastic article, Sator, though I'm still quite blurr about the distinction between paddock coat and paletot.
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Nice picture, Sator, thanks.
However, to avoid costs overrun, I'm not prepared to include the impressive frock coat in my wardrobe, unless of course the bride is over 6 feet tall, weighs at least 180 lbs. and has a waist between 16 and 19 inches.
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Nice picture, Sator, thanks.
However, to avoid costs overrun, I'm not prepared to include the impressive frock coat in my wardrobe, unless of course the bride is over 6 feet tall, weighs at least 180 lbs. and has a waist between 16 and 19 inches.
Thanks Sator, some very nice deviant topcoats indeed. The clerick coat is divine - although five layers of material on the shoulders must be heavy.
Do you have any examples of a coat that might be considered an elegant forerunner of the "drizabone"? Perhaps double-breasted, perhaps a single vent in the rear, definitely a short cape covering the shoulders, possibly strapped under the armpits. Even a hood might be possible, as you've shown with the "hoodie" ulster. Just curious.
Do you have any examples of a coat that might be considered an elegant forerunner of the "drizabone"? Perhaps double-breasted, perhaps a single vent in the rear, definitely a short cape covering the shoulders, possibly strapped under the armpits. Even a hood might be possible, as you've shown with the "hoodie" ulster. Just curious.
For the sake of clarity I would like to also briefly discuss this illustration:
Elsewhere on LL it is discussed by Etutee as being a "paddock coat". I have to question that because closer examination of the overcoat demonstrates that it has a waist seam:
The overcoat is thus quite clearly a frock overcoat, which would be the more appropriate overcoat for wear with full dress anyway.
Elsewhere on LL it is discussed by Etutee as being a "paddock coat". I have to question that because closer examination of the overcoat demonstrates that it has a waist seam:
The overcoat is thus quite clearly a frock overcoat, which would be the more appropriate overcoat for wear with full dress anyway.
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I like the impressive look of what you identify as a frock overcoat, Sator. But are there any other hats, apart from the top hat, that can be worn with it?
The Chesterfield that I made recently failed to impress me at all.
So off to the clothiers again.
The Chesterfield that I made recently failed to impress me at all.
So off to the clothiers again.
I have added some tailor's patterns for those of you who might be interested. Included are patterns for a frock overcoat, paletot and paddock coat.
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