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Flaring sleeves?
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:28 pm
by kirsch
Hello all,
Are there any particular suit-makers who flare out sleeves at the end near the wrist? (kind of like boot-cut pants)
If I wanted a suit coat which did that and the trousers to be boot-cut as well, which bespoke designers would be the best?
thanks,
chris
Re: Flaring sleeves?
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:15 pm
by smoothjazzone
Not sure why you'd want this -- but . . .
http://www.englishcut.com/archives/2005_04.html
kirsch wrote:Hello all,
Are there any particular suit-makers who flare out sleeves at the end near the wrist? (kind of like boot-cut pants)
If I wanted a suit coat which did that and the trousers to be boot-cut as well, which bespoke designers would be the best?
thanks,
chris
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:41 am
by the tailor
Have a look at my weblog, under the heading 'unusual jackets'.
I have just made two jackets that had flared cuffs.
www.desmerrionbespoketailor.com
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:27 pm
by kirsch
Mr. Merrion,
How did the flared cuffs turn out? Good/Bad idea?
thanks,
Chris
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:12 am
by iammatt
FWIW, I think that it is a bad idea. The sleeves should be tapered rather than flared to give a more elegant line to the arm. It is the timeless way to go.
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:44 am
by kirsch
Well, maybe I am wrong about the "flare," but take a look at this post (silhouettes wiki):
http://thelondonlounge.net/gl/forum/vie ... ht=kilgour
Scroll down to the pictures of the Huntsman coats. The second one--check out the sleeve at the bottom. It looks flared to me. Maybe they are just unbuttoned or something, but I like that look.
Is it not flared at all? Just the angle?
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:20 am
by jklu
I believe the Huntsman coats have yet to be finished with buttons, so they are opening at the sleeve vents and give the flared look. I think flared sleeves are at least as big a mistake as bell bottomed suit trousers.
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:24 am
by Dragon
I believe the Huntsman coats have yet to be finished with buttons, so they are opening at the sleeve vents and give the flared look.
Exactly. You can get the same flared look, by unbuttoning 1 or 2 buttons on the sleeve. (Oh no...I'm new here and this is my first post...I hope I don't get shot for saying that )
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:23 am
by iammatt
It is also from the cuffs being folded tight rather than being free and circular as the arms are. That puts the whole circumfrence of the cuff as two strainght lines making them appear flared.
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:47 am
by Thomas I. Kim
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:04 pm
by the tailor
kirsch wrote:Mr. Merrion,
How did the flared cuffs turn out? Good/Bad idea?
thanks,
Chris
The sleeves turned out fine Chris.
I have made these kind of sleeves many, many times for various tailors in the UK when I was a trade jacket maker.
The only thing I was not keen on with these particular sleeves, they were piped with a matching lining trim around the edges.
The style is very individual, sleek and a pesonal touch on a bespoke garment you may want to order, not someone elses idea of right and wrong. When they are done right and in proportion, which is the most important aspect, they look good.
Remember, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and surely bespoke clothing is about how it makes you feel and expressing your individuality?
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:12 am
by iammatt
Thomas I. Kim wrote:In my opinion, when done right, flared sleeves can look extremely sleek. Also, I always understood flared sleeves to be a postive characteristic of a true Neapolitan jacket. Just take a look at these Rubinaccis:
Tom
Tom,
I can't speak for huntsman, but I can tell you that Rubinacci does
not make a flared sleeve. He prefers a very tapered sleeve and the pictures are a bit of an optical illusion.
The trumpet that you are referring on Naples jackets to takes place at the sleevehead and not the cuff. At least that is how I understand it and it is certainly so with Rubinacci.
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:56 am
by Thomas I. Kim
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:21 pm
by Leonard Logsdail
Huntman's are definitely not known for flared cuffs. In certain photographs of suits on dummies cuffs can look flared. this was a style often made in the late 1960's early 1970's before the leaner suit became fashionable. I recently made a suit with flared cuffs for Denzel Washington for a movie being made called American Gangster. It looked very good, but then the movie was set in harlem in 1970. Perfect!
leonard
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:30 pm
by manton
I saw the photos of Mr. Washington in Leonard's shop. Not clothing most of us would wear, to be sure, but nonetheless very impressive stuff that captures the era perfectly.