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The Importance of being Measured

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:04 pm
by JamesT1
Since I have spent the past several days sitting at home, nursing the flu, I came up with an idea for a post that some people (myself included), might view as helpful. As I was watching President Bush on the news this afternoon, I noticed that his suits never seem to fit. I was wondering what mistakes are being made by his tailors that those of us new to the field should avoid. I will include a few pictures of examples.

http://yosemite.epa.gov/r10/homepage.ns ... /PEYA1.jpg
This is the most common problem I have seen. The case in which the collar and lapels of his jacket seem to float infront and above him, as opposed to on him.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 1-726v.jpg
This photo has the same problem as the previous, however it also shows a problem with the sleeves and the waist and shoulders just 'don't look correct'.


-On a sidenote: While I realize that it may seem as though I am insulting/mocking the President, I have no ill intent here other than to promote the examination of improper tailoring, their causes and their cures. I am not making an attempt to bring politics into the lounge, nor do I have any intention to do so. I am only using the President as an example; I am only curious as to why someone with the spotlight on them all of the time seems to always appear in ill-fitting suits.

Thanks for your help,
James

Re: The Importance of being Measured

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:54 pm
by Nexus
JamesT1 wrote:http://yosemite.epa.gov/r10/homepage.ns ... /PEYA1.jpg
This is the most common problem I have seen. The case in which the collar and lapels of his jacket seem to float infront and above him, as opposed to on him.
This could probably be caused by the ladies holding their arms on the President's back, and thus pulling the jacket down a bit from the back. By the way, notice his Prince of Wales.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:08 pm
by mrwynn
What a horrifying picture, and so large!

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:21 pm
by JamesT1
Nexus,

I was looking for a picture that captured what was irritating me when I was watching him on the news this morning. This was the only picture I could find that showed the jacket ballooning out like this. As near as I could tell, this morning this was not due to his having his arms around anyone else. I am a fan of the Prince of Wales Check however.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:23 am
by Costi
As you suggested in your thread's paraphrasing title (since the character's being "E(a)rnest" seems hardly the case), perhaps the client is too busy and his tailors never get to measure and fit him properly, thus resorting to imagination and cutting for a (rather imaginary) IDEAL president. THAT would explain why nothing fits him properly: while the clothes are properly cut for the good Mr. Algernon Moncrieff (in keeping with our little charade), it's actually Bunbury wearing them.
Leaving aside the personality of the character and viewing the coats as hanging on a manequin (actually not that hard to imagine) the coats seem a bit straight (as opposed to crooked) and the backneck measure perhaps too wide. I should very much like to find out what our artisans think of it.

Re: The Importance of being Measured

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:58 am
by ThomasG
JamesT1 wrote:his suits never seem to fit. I was wondering what mistakes are being made by his tailors
This DJ and a few of GWB's other suits were tailored by Oxxford (Rocco traveled to Texas to fit him), I think that they look great. Why he doesn't wear Oxxford exclusively, I don't know. Sometimes politicians purposely eschew expensive suits and watches so as to appear closer to their constituents.

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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:41 pm
by bry2000
I have always assumed his horribly fitting suits were made by Oxxford. Maybe I am mistaken.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:49 pm
by Ed
bry2000 wrote:I have always assumed his horribly fitting suits were made by Oxxford. Maybe I am mistaken.

Most of his suits are made by Georges de Paris in Washington.

It seems Oxxford made his suits primarily during the time of
the 2001 inaugural.

http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/paris.aspx