Wing Tip Loafers?

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Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:12 am

What role do wing tip loafers play in a man's wardrobe?
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:00 am

brescd01 wrote:What role do wing tip loafers play in a man's wardrobe?
Macbeth, but only when the wardobe is closed. When the wardobe is open, they just lie about.

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Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:25 pm

You mean like a dress slip-on with a wing-tip toe decoration? I haven't seen many of these. The ones I have look pretty good. But a true loafer with a wing-tip front strieks me as sort of overwrought. The basic structure of the shoe seems too slight for the substantial nature of the decoration and broguing.
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:33 pm

Like the first one, a dress slip-on with broguing.
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:41 pm

To give a more serious reply - Until I order bespoke shoes, I cannot possibly wear loafers. If I do get my shoes made to fit, I probably would not order loafers until I was sure every other need was filled. As a result, a flip answer was the best I could offer. I don’t think I would ever order wingtip loafers - I would get the side gusset slip-ons (the type Cleverly is known for), which I don’t think of as loafers, in a perfed cap toe. I have a pair in a perfed whole cut, but they are suede so have not been worn yet.
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:47 pm

Dopey: you might be able to wear a dress slip-on. Green makes a few. They fit much more like lace-ups than loafers. I don't have any myself, but if it's a look you're interested in, you might want to try some on and see if they work for you.
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:00 pm

Something like the EG Wigmore is a very attractive:

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Something like the Johnston & Murphy Avery is not:

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I'd imagine that the Wigmore could be worn as a substitute for similar wingtip bluchers or monkstraps.
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:47 pm

My question was about the Wigmore sort: I got a Grenson Masterpiece version of this in black and I wanted to know how to wear it.

I have a second question: the shoe has a fitting peculiarity. It pulls my socks down into the shoe, the left more than the right. Does anyone know what causes this problem?
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:47 pm

The EG Wigmore is a nice looking shoe.
I'd almost prefer it without the brogueing to keep it clean and simple.
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:32 pm

Wigmore's are perfect shoes to wear on airplanes, or when you are going to visit your tailor or shoemaker, because they are easy on, easy off.
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:30 pm

Also very handy to wear in Japan or other places where you frequently have to remove your shoes.

However, if you wear your trousers with a substantial break, you might hardly notice that the shoes are slip-ons. I think that might be why they look so attractive -- they look as if they are part of the shoe canon. By contrast, the black Johnson & Murphy shoe looks like a mismash of elements from different types of shoes of varying levels of dressiness.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:02 am

The wigmore is a gorgeous shoe!
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:12 am

Wigmore is good fitting shoe as are most gusset shoes, the gusset allows for all of the different positions your foot is in when walking, whereas a lace up is tightened to a certain tension and can become a little tight or loose though wear, a gusset shoe is also great at accommodating for the changes in your feet when they swell up or down which makes the perfect if your travelling on an airplane.

Mind you sometimes with the gusset on the instep as apposed to the sidem can irritate the instep, the foot can move forward in the shoe and the gusset can rub against the instep, In brescd01 case i would imagine that he has one instep higher than the other, the foot with the lower instep is moving back and forth more as the gusset is not holding teh foot quite as much, this would cause the sock to be pulled down into the shoe.

Many people confuse the instep with the arch, the instep is on top of your foot and is exactly where an oxford lacing would be, whereas the arch is under the foot towards the inside.

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Tony
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:43 am

All I can say is, wow. I feel like I met a rock star.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:47 am

Since I have Tony's attention, quickly (before he moves to the next groups of adoring fans):

1) Could you repeat once more what causes shoes to squeak, and I am not talking about the squeak of fine leather but something louder that sounds at every step.

2) Could you remark about the EG Dundee? I am contemplating buying it because I am unhappy with the Alfred Sargent Veldtshoen I own, it is rather ungainly and stiff.
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