An Italian Bespoke Wedding
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:09 pm
Hello All
I have been an avid reader of londonlounge for quite some time and so far only managed to pick up a little of the enormous amounts of sartorial knowledge there is in this forum. I finally got a chance to contribute, hopefully useful, with my experiences getting a first bespoke suit.
I just turned 30 and off the rack suits do fit me well when carefully chosen, but I have been craving for a bespoke experience for quite a while. I finally decided to get a bespoke suit for my impending wedding in Italy in July. Through this post I will describe the whole process as I go through it and will hopefully be useful to some.
I started with the very informative post by manton on Wedding Attire. However, I chose to go with a standard 3 piece suit ( not sure if I should call it a lounge suit), so that I can use it for other occasions as well.
Suit: I always wanted my first bespoke suit to be Saville Row (English Cut or A&S), but given the logistics of 3 fittings etc. I have decided to research Italian tailors. I went through the forum and realized Napoli is the sartorial heaven of Italy. However, Rome is closer for me and decided to check out Brioni in via Barberini on 21-Apr-2012. The store is nice, but nothing special. The service was courteous and friendly. However, it all seemed very commercial and there was no personal touch. After 5 minutes of discussion, someone took my measurements in a hurry, helped me choose a fabric and gave me a price quote.I left my business card telling them I will call them back.
I had been eyeing Caraceni in Rome till then, but felt that it might be very expensive. After seeing Brioni's quote, I wanted to check Caraceni as well. Called them during the week and asked them if it is possible to see them on a Saturday and surprisingly they agreed. Saturday morning, Carlo (my cutter) opened the store for us and we started talking. He asked a few questions about where and what time the wedding is, what color the dress of my fiancee is etc to help me choose the right fabric. He started by showing me a 8 oz super 140, but given my inclination to stay with a medium weight fabric, I told him I prefer a 11-12 oz. While we were going through the fabrics, he mentioned that he was travelling during the week to take the measurements of Valentino in Paris. My fiancee mentioned that I have been studying about Caraceni and that we knew he cuts the suits for Valentino. Carlo was immediately excited and invited me into the cutting room etc. to show a few pictures of suits and jackets he cut for Valentino. There were also some trousers getting made for Valentino and he let me examine them. After that he took me to the textile room where there was a bigger selection of Fabrics and finally we chose a dark gray 12 oz super 120 fabric. He then took me into another room for measurements. The wall is plastered with pictures of Who's who of the world including Sarkozy & Berlusconi. While my fiancee was taking pictures, Carlo started taking measurements. I told him that I like a more "English" cut than "Italian" and that I like my shoulders to be as devoid of padding as possible. He said "dont worry, you have a decent shoulder, I will take care of it" (in italian ofcourse). Then I told him, I like my suits a little shorter and he said " dont worry, a suit has to have a certain presence, I will take care of it". And finally he said "If you are here, we will give you one of our designs, why think of a English cut. Dont worry, We will take care of you". I am certain he will make a great suit that fits exactly his taste . However, he is very warm and pleasant and I am certain he will take care of me. He did not understand that I wanted a three piece suit and when I mentioned that he took me to wear a sample vest and took my measurements again. We had some more pleasant conversation and set out to leave. Offered to pay an advance but he refused and told us he will call us when he is ready.
Even before the suit comes out, I highly recommend Caraceni in Roma for being such gentlemen and making all this such a pleasant experience.
Before leaving we asked for suggestions on shoes and a shirt. For the Shirt, he has directed us to "Soldati" on via Arno. For shoes he said I could just go to via xxx(i didnt quite get it). We thanked and left. He called me today to tell me that he is ready for the first fitting and that the suit has come out very well. I am so so excited.
Please do give me any suggestions for things to watch out for during a first fitting as this is the first time for me.
I will continue posting as I go through the entire process.
I have been an avid reader of londonlounge for quite some time and so far only managed to pick up a little of the enormous amounts of sartorial knowledge there is in this forum. I finally got a chance to contribute, hopefully useful, with my experiences getting a first bespoke suit.
I just turned 30 and off the rack suits do fit me well when carefully chosen, but I have been craving for a bespoke experience for quite a while. I finally decided to get a bespoke suit for my impending wedding in Italy in July. Through this post I will describe the whole process as I go through it and will hopefully be useful to some.
I started with the very informative post by manton on Wedding Attire. However, I chose to go with a standard 3 piece suit ( not sure if I should call it a lounge suit), so that I can use it for other occasions as well.
Suit: I always wanted my first bespoke suit to be Saville Row (English Cut or A&S), but given the logistics of 3 fittings etc. I have decided to research Italian tailors. I went through the forum and realized Napoli is the sartorial heaven of Italy. However, Rome is closer for me and decided to check out Brioni in via Barberini on 21-Apr-2012. The store is nice, but nothing special. The service was courteous and friendly. However, it all seemed very commercial and there was no personal touch. After 5 minutes of discussion, someone took my measurements in a hurry, helped me choose a fabric and gave me a price quote.I left my business card telling them I will call them back.
I had been eyeing Caraceni in Rome till then, but felt that it might be very expensive. After seeing Brioni's quote, I wanted to check Caraceni as well. Called them during the week and asked them if it is possible to see them on a Saturday and surprisingly they agreed. Saturday morning, Carlo (my cutter) opened the store for us and we started talking. He asked a few questions about where and what time the wedding is, what color the dress of my fiancee is etc to help me choose the right fabric. He started by showing me a 8 oz super 140, but given my inclination to stay with a medium weight fabric, I told him I prefer a 11-12 oz. While we were going through the fabrics, he mentioned that he was travelling during the week to take the measurements of Valentino in Paris. My fiancee mentioned that I have been studying about Caraceni and that we knew he cuts the suits for Valentino. Carlo was immediately excited and invited me into the cutting room etc. to show a few pictures of suits and jackets he cut for Valentino. There were also some trousers getting made for Valentino and he let me examine them. After that he took me to the textile room where there was a bigger selection of Fabrics and finally we chose a dark gray 12 oz super 120 fabric. He then took me into another room for measurements. The wall is plastered with pictures of Who's who of the world including Sarkozy & Berlusconi. While my fiancee was taking pictures, Carlo started taking measurements. I told him that I like a more "English" cut than "Italian" and that I like my shoulders to be as devoid of padding as possible. He said "dont worry, you have a decent shoulder, I will take care of it" (in italian ofcourse). Then I told him, I like my suits a little shorter and he said " dont worry, a suit has to have a certain presence, I will take care of it". And finally he said "If you are here, we will give you one of our designs, why think of a English cut. Dont worry, We will take care of you". I am certain he will make a great suit that fits exactly his taste . However, he is very warm and pleasant and I am certain he will take care of me. He did not understand that I wanted a three piece suit and when I mentioned that he took me to wear a sample vest and took my measurements again. We had some more pleasant conversation and set out to leave. Offered to pay an advance but he refused and told us he will call us when he is ready.
Even before the suit comes out, I highly recommend Caraceni in Roma for being such gentlemen and making all this such a pleasant experience.
Before leaving we asked for suggestions on shoes and a shirt. For the Shirt, he has directed us to "Soldati" on via Arno. For shoes he said I could just go to via xxx(i didnt quite get it). We thanked and left. He called me today to tell me that he is ready for the first fitting and that the suit has come out very well. I am so so excited.
Please do give me any suggestions for things to watch out for during a first fitting as this is the first time for me.
I will continue posting as I go through the entire process.