Is Caraceni Rome right for me?

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ykh
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Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:35 am

Back to the subject of Camps de Luca and Cifonelli, the former has a more formal Parisan style while the latter has a more Italian look to it. In the latest issue of Monsieur magazine, there is an article on Cifonelli and Djay on making Prince of Wales check suits. By the way, has anyone tried Djay?
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Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:18 pm

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I was curious who's wearing this gorgeously tailored three piece suit (and more importantly, who the tailor is)?

Thanks to Michael for posting the original picture.

Kind regards,
Minh
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Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:07 pm

Audi you are correct...I have never seen a William Fiorvanti product in person

There are no articles on the internet which review his products. His own website is devoid of any information besides a picture of him wearing a dark suit (so I can't even see any styling cues on it)

Some have commented on how the way he makes his jacket collars is non-traditional (Manton mentioned something about a hybrid fusing he uses...but I don't recall exactly what he said and don't wish to misquote him). Others defended Fiorvanti's use of this method and noted it did not effect the overall quality of the product. Unfortunatley Fiorvanti does not contribute on any forum and I have not run into any forum member who has commissioned a bespoke garmet from him.

I am mulling over using a local Italian tailor named Enzo Caruso in Santa Monica, California

Sleevehead's blog has a nice article on him

Besides Trabalza, the Italian tailor used by Schwarzenegger (who is ready to retire)... Enzo is considered, per numerous others that I have talked to (including cloth merchants), the only other legitimate bespoke tailor in L.A. I know of Jack Taylor but I have no interest in making suits by him.

Enzo's prices are triple what I'm paying for now but I have visited his shop 4 times and have gotten a good feel of the product he makes, his thoughts on what works and doesn't work with my frame. He's an 8 minute drive from my home and thus unlimited fittings are possible and numerous tailoring lessons to learn are within reach

He's a 5th generation Calabrese tailor from the old country who worked a few years tailoring in London and has been established in Santa Monica for the past 15 years.

I prefer to support a one man show artisan who is both tailor and cutter

Once I commission my first suit with Enzo, I'll report if it was worth $3200 CMT for a 3 piece suit.

If the fit and quality of construction are not superior to my previous tailor, then I'll keep my mouth shut, pay less and live with a comparibly similar product.

As to using Caraceni or Cifonell or any bespoke NY tailor listed above, the thought was fun while it lasted but in the end, I desire fittings and don't wish to rush quality. Especially if I plan on establishing a relationship beyond a one man stand

Besides, for my budget, add in cloth $4000 and above is way out of my range
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Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:58 pm

I don't have $5K for a suit so Caraceni is off the table...indefinetely

I've offered $1500 CMT for my tailor for him to up the ante in the quality of his work. The Triple Overcheck will be my experiment to see if I'll commission further projects with him

I look forward to participating in a variety of LL limited edition cloths and thus I'd rather have my local tailor do multiple projects instead of a 1 or 2 expensive one night stand with Caraceni

I have difficulty in accepting that another tailor can make a 4 piece suit, CMT for $4500 which would be vastly superior to what my current tailor makes. Could it be better, I'm sure it could...but its just so tough to justify

Especially with the plethora of beautiful cloths out there and the infinite amount of MTO shoes available to complement them
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