Who makes the best British ties?

[shredder]

The linings are also all silk, whereas, now, even in handmade ties, the linings are, sometimes, acetate (I'm looking at one taken at random from my stock).

The acetate thing is frightening. For a start, I assume that when you say linings you mean tippings rather than the interlining. Would you be happy to name and shame the seller of acetate tipped tie(s)? Sometimes, rather than being self-tipped (same silk as the main bits of the tie), some ties are tipped with plain coloured lightweight silk which may give a somewhat cheap impression.

[Bishop of Briggs]

The linings are also all silk, whereas, now, even in handmade ties, the linings are, sometimes, acetate (I'm looking at one taken at random from my stock).

The acetate thing is frightening. For a start, I assume that when you say linings you mean tippings rather than the interlining. Would you be happy to name and shame the seller of acetate tipped tie(s)? Sometimes, rather than being self-tipped (same silk as the main bits of the tie), some ties are tipped with plain coloured lightweight silk which may give a somewhat cheap impression.

Both T&A and Drakes ties are, in general, tipped with a plain coloured lightweight silk. Drakes use an off-white for wovens and 50oz printed but self-tip the 36oz printed silk ties. Having looked at both makes in detail over the last couple of days, Drakes are better, especially for printed silks.

[shredder]

NJS, would you be able to post some photos of the neck area, and other possible areas of interest, of your Sulka tie?
Many thanks,
s

[NJS]

NJS, would you be able to post some photos of the neck area, and other possible areas of interest, of your Sulka tie?
Many thanks,
s

I will do my best - I have about 3 here and so I'll need to get some batteries for the camera. This reminds me that I also owe 2 other photos - the first of Jack Buchanan and the other of my morning coat - so I'll chase those up too.
NJS

[NJS]

The linings are also all silk, whereas, now, even in handmade ties, the linings are, sometimes, acetate (I'm looking at one taken at random from my stock).

The acetate thing is frightening. For a start, I assume that when you say linings you mean tippings rather than the interlining. Would you be happy to name and shame the seller of acetate tipped tie(s)? Sometimes, rather than being self-tipped (same silk as the main bits of the tie), some ties are tipped with plain coloured lightweight silk which may give a somewhat cheap impression.

Yes, I do meaning tipping - I am 90% sure that it is acetate but as I could be wrong, I'll not name the shop - but it is a famous Jermyn Street shop.It is not a bad tie or I could burn it to test it and that seems to be a step too far - even to oblige the Loungers.
NJS

[NJS]

Here are three photographs of a couple of my Sulka ties. They are not very good photos and I am sorry about that. I really need specs and the camera is not very good. The first shot shows the diamond-ended reinforcement on the neckband. The next shot shows labels and the third shot is just a nice tie - very soft silk. I HAVE REMOVED THE PICTURES AS THEY ARE HOPELESS BUT I SHALL TRY AGAIN LATER.



NJS

[shredder]

I'm feeling a bit faint... Your efforts are much appreciated. Close-up shots are quite tricky. What seems to work even with basic equipment is to aim from at least 18" away from the subject and then zoom in.

[NJS]

Here is one that I took some time ago but it is mainly the label. I'm sorry but the diamond stitching reinforcement just doesn't come out.



The morning coat photo promised some time ago should be here in a couple of days (at least it'll be a reasonable sjhot!) and the Jack Buchanan - Maurice Chevalier photo is still coming -- sometime.

NJS

[Jordan Marc]

Bishop of Briggs:

Limiting yourself to British-made neckwear is one way to go, I suppose, but it smacks of tie zenophobia. There are wonderful tiemakers on the Continent such as Charvet,
Hermes, Stefano Ricci and Marinella. Still more in Asia. Silks made in China, Japan and Thailand are exquisite. If made properly, ties are accessories of which you can never have too many, so shop the world. And be discerning in your taste, ie, choose your own ties. A man who allows a woman or a child to choose his ties usually looks the perfect fool.

JMB

[shredder]

Limiting yourself to British-made neckwear is one way to go, I suppose, but it smacks of tie zenophobia.

Some people seem bothered by the zenon headlamps of my automobile, but I take it you meant xenophobia, in which case that is quite a leap in interpretation, I think.

[NJS]

Limiting yourself to British-made neckwear is one way to go, I suppose, but it smacks of tie zenophobia.

Some people seem bothered by the zenon headlamps of my automobile, but I take it you meant xenophobia, in which case that is quite a leap in interpretation, I think.

...especially since Sulka was founded by a European emigre in New York!
NJS

[Bishop of Briggs]

Bishop of Briggs:

Limiting yourself to British-made neckwear is one way to go, I suppose, but it smacks of tie zenophobia. There are wonderful tiemakers on the Continent such as Charvet,
Hermes, Stefano Ricci and Marinella. Still more in Asia. Silks made in China, Japan and Thailand are exquisite. If made properly, ties are accessories of which you can never have too many, so shop the world. And be discerning in your taste, ie, choose your own ties. A man who allows a woman or a child to choose his ties usually looks the perfect fool.

JMB

I am not limiting myself to British made neckware and I am not xenophobic. Marinella, to my knowledge, are not available in London and I cannot afford a trip to Naples just to buy ties. I was unimpressed by the range in Hermes' Bond Street store. Charvet ties are expensive and I prefer more heavyweight ties. Stefano Ricci designs do not appeal to my personal conservative taste.

Nobody chooses my ties, or any part of my wardrobe, for me. It is ridiculous for you suggest that is the case. I would be grateful if you did not indulge in any more attempts at amateur psychology. You do not know me and your post, frankly, insults my sartorial knowledge and taste. Btw, my wife is half Italian.

[le.gentleman]

Here is one that I took some time ago but it is mainly the label. I'm sorry but the diamond stitching reinforcement just doesn't come out.



The morning coat photo promised some time ago should be here in a couple of days (at least it'll be a reasonable sjhot!) and the Jack Buchanan - Maurice Chevalier photo is still coming -- sometime.

NJS

Awesome, I am looking forward to seeing the morning coat picture!

[andreyb]

Kolecho - last Winter Budd had madder paisley ties that came from Drakes and most of their ties were on the same 8cm pattern which makes me think that they came from Drakes.

If you can take a look at the ties in Budd's shop, it is not too hard to find if they are from Mr Drake or not.

Look at the back side of "Hand Made in England / 100% Silk" label" (sitting on narrower end of a tie). If there are little "MD" letters, this is definitely Drake's.

Andrey

[Bishop of Briggs]

Richard Anderson's online store has several ties that are identical to some on Drake's online store (http://www.richardandersonltd.com/catal ... Path=34_35),

The PoW checks and woven spotted are two examples. Anderson charges £9.30 more than Drakes. See below

http://www.richardandersonltd.com/catal ... ucts_id=93 and http://shoponline.drakes-london.com/zoo ... 20Tie.aspx.

http://www.richardandersonltd.com/catal ... cts_id=258 and http://shoponline.drakes-london.com/zoo ... 20Tie.aspx

There is one that looks to be made of the butcher blue/ivory spot silk used in one of Michael's LL silk scarves - http://www.richardandersonltd.com/catal ... cts_id=137.