New York stores

[Mark Seitelman]

Dr. Teplitz, you are not alone.

My wife and I often shop at Peter Elliot on sale. The regular prices are high, and our full retail purchases are limited. E.g., Borrelli shirts are generally $325+. Kiton ties are $195. However, he does have many items within a realistic price range. Most of his private label ties average about $100-120.

The "sales annex" next to the women's store has closed and has moved next door to Peter Elliot Blue at Lexington & 72nd. (Eventually, that store will be incorporated into Blue.) The old "sales annex" or children's store is going to become a Peter Elliot shoe store.

[tteplitzmd]

Thanks for the update, Mark. Do you know if the Peter Elliot Barbour store ever has sales?
They seem a bit out of the Peter Elliot loop.

Terry

[Mark Seitelman]

Yes, the Barbour by Peter Elliot store runs end of season sales.

[Mark Seitelman]

BTW, Dr. Teplitz, there is a very healthy market for expensive clothes for children. E.g., both Peter Elliot Blue and Jay Kos, which are across the street from each other, have boys' departments. Jay Kos has an extensive boys' section.

[tteplitzmd]

I will check it out when we are there over the Memorial Day weekend. My son has a pair of moleskin trousers and a lot of Italian knitwear, but beyond that it is hard for me to buy the child's goods at other than deep discount. The markup on children's shoes/clothing exceeds that of adults from what I can see. That being said, I have done very well at Peter Elliot for Kids when they are sale.

[Guest]

Regarding Davide Cenci, the salesman was gracious, one of the only ones on that day I went NYC shopping, but I found little interesting. Their RTW shirts are by Talia and nothing special. Their Saint Andrews suits were a small and somber collection. Their shoes did not impress me. Did I catch them on a bad day? Another salesman was visbly unhappy with clients who looked at outfits but bought nothing. A lot of people with very good taste recommend Davide Cenci, I feel like I missed something or did not know where to look.

[tteplitzmd]

I buy only furnishings and sportwear at Davide Cenci: especially raincoat, shearling,
belvest microfiber jackets, LP storm system winter coats, sweaters. I buy only at sale when they are 30 to 50% off. Daniel Moore, is a subdued but very knowledgable guy,
no pressure, a career salesman. He knows his goods inside and out. The other two guys are pleasant or disinterested. I buy regularly every 6 months during their sale, but never shirts, slacks, suits, or jackets. Their cashmere knitwear is superb, again only on sale.

The only thing I ever bought there that was a problem was a microfiber raincoat too big, sold to me on a day when Daniel Moore was off.

[edhayes]

I went to Tip Top Superfine Fabrics in Greenpoint Brooklyn yesterday for the first time and the quality of fabrics was wonderful-I was very impressed. I am definitely going back to have more from them and also they have a tailor that comes in on Saturday and makes pants which I would very much like.

[Thracozaag]

Flusser is at 3 East 48th Street, 4th floor.

Mark and I don't disagree often but I don't find Mimo to be so gracious. Be prepared to have your clothes insulted, and if you tell him who your tailor is, 60% chance he will turn up his nose and insult him too. Just one man's personal (but repeated) experience. (He never seems to remember who I am; or at least he pretends not too.)

Does anyone like Spano's suits?

koji

[Mark Seitelman]

I have tried on one of Mimo's RTW suits. It fit rather well.

His coat has a high armhole and a slightly longer shoulder with a fitted waist. He reasons that the longer shoulder and nipped waist makes you look slimmer. The coat that I tried looked very good.

His clothes are made by Adiran Jules in Rochester. Therefore, his clothes are a bybrid of custom and MTM. I believe that he does the usual routine in that Jules makes the pattern, cuts the cloth, and sews the suit. He does a basted try-on in the shop. The suit is finished in the shop. He has his dedicated tailor apart from the Saks alteration deparment.

Some of his exclusive cloths are lovely and some are much too bold. Generally, he favors a look which screams, "Hey, I'm bespoke." Some of the ensembles that he wears and that he features in the Saks promotional brochure are very loud.

On the whole you can get a good and look good if you control the process and selection of accessories.

Incidentally, Phillip Ferrante, the head of Saks's alterations, is a very talented tailor. He used to be Flusser's tailor at Saks. He will make a full bespoke suit for about the same price through the Fifth Avenue Club. Although he's Neopolitan, his suit is Roman style.

Cheers.

[Guest]

What is the Fifth Avenue Club?

[Mark Seitelman]

The Fifth Avenue Club is a separate section of the mens floor which affords greater privacy and service to heavy hitters and personal shoppers with their clients.

It is a segregated section behind a glass door next to Spano's section. It has private dressing rooms which are large enough to conduct a private fitting rather than the regular "gang" dressing room of the floor. There is also a large, central waiting area where the the Mrs. can wait comfortably. I believe that they offer coffee or spring water and also have faxes and computers for the Masters of the Universe who must be "plugged-in" at all times.

Phillip has makes suits for the top executives of Saks as well as a host of private clients, such as the late Isaac Stern. If you ever want to meet him, please call me, and I shall make the introduction.

Mark

[Guest]

Thank you Mark for this and your other offers. I am happy with my current tailor but I will eventually take advantage of one of the introductions you have kindly offered me!

This is my list of "NYC stores to visit" as it stands. I have hit a few and that is why some have been knocked off the list.

Peter Elliot Men's 1070 Mad (81st) 212-570-2300
Barbour by Peter Elliot 1047 Mad (80th) 212-570-2300
Peter Elliot Blue 997 Lex (72nd) 212-570-2300
Jay Kos 988 Lex (71st) 212-327-2382 475 Park (57th) 212-319-2770
Penhaligan's 870 Mad (70th) 212-249-1771
Barney's 660 Mad (60th) 212-826-8900
Bergorf Goodman Men's 745 5th (58th) 212-753-7300
Herzfeld 118 E 57th (Park/Lex) 212-753-6756
Cego 174 5th w 212-620-4512 c 646-623-2132
Kabay 339 W Broad 212-925-9631 www.kabay.net yatrick@kabay.net
Century 21 22 Cortlandt (Broadway)
Liste Rouge 65 Broad (Rector/Exchange)

Some are repeats because they have something I want to follow, like Kabay's Barba and Finamore shirts.

Someone should declare Truefit "official fragrance line of LL" because I have tried all the samples they sent me, their whole line, and every single one was manly and wonderful, according to both my wife and me. That has to be some kind of achievement, because I usually think most colognes are too feminine or heavy. Of course, the cologne that I traditionally consider "my own" though I have not worn it in a while, is Habit Rouge, and some people think THAT is very feminine.

[RWS]

. . . . Someone should declare Truefit "official fragrance line of LL" because I have tried all the samples they sent me, their whole line, and every single one was manly and wonderful . . . .

Where may one find Truefit, David? Might you have an e-address for the perfumer? I fear that my nearby metropolis, no longer as sophisticated as it was even two or three generations ago, affords me no retailer.

[Concordia]

http://www.truefittandhill.com/locations.shtml