Monk Strap Shoes

[Étienne]

I'm curious as to the notion that both full-brogue oxfords and monkstraps are dressier than plain-toe derbies?

For monkstraps, especially plain-toe ones, I think this is not debatable. For the rest, maybe some derbies with a very modern design, such as the Corthay ones with a very narrow flap, could be considered dressier.

[DonB]

To me, the monk is a less formal shoe (about in the middle of the scale) and would not be so useful in black. If I have to wear black shoes, then usually I am wearing clothes that demand cap-toed oxfords. On all other occasions, I wear brown.

One thing black monks would be great for, however: a DB blazer, gray trousers, and a smart shirt. That's about the dressiest you can be without wearing a suit.

Hello all,

I am looking for a brown monk strap shoe. The one pictured below is splendid to behold:



The problem is that most monk strap shoes feature either a gold colored strap, a last that is to rounded to my taste, or dual straps (the horror!). If neither is the case, the strap is often plain big. A width of about 1/2-3/4th of an inch or 1-1,5cm would be ideal. Most models I have come across feature larger straps.

Is bespoke the only alternative?

Kind regards,
Don

[Wakefield]

DonB

If you find a pair that you like in all respects except for buckle colour there may be a simpler solution than bespoke.

I was recently looking at a pair of brown monkstraps in the Cheaney store on Bond Street. They had gold coloured buckles and I was looking for silver. I was told that it would be no problem to return the shoes to the factory and have the buckles replaced with silver ones.

I am sure that if Cheaney offer to do this then other good shoemakers would. Failing that, perhaps a good cobbler could do the same?

Regards

GAH

[DD MacDonald]

Take a look at Green's Troon with consideration of their 888 and 808 (not as severe) . I believe that they wiill use a silver colored buckle if desired.

DDM

[Will]

In my opinion, a two or three tie plain toe derby in calf, like the EG Exeter or its bespoke equivalent, is more formal than a full brogue oxford.

Whether it's more or less formal than a monk will depend on the monk. If the monk has a plain toe, the two shoes will be roughly equivalent. If the monk has brogueing or stitching, it is less formal.