Suggestions for Rome

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dopey
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Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:52 pm

I will be reprising this trip, so any other suggestions for Rome would be appreciated.
I hope to bring Caraceni the original LL gun club cloth to be made into a sportcoat and, maybe, since I have 3m, a waistcoat. There is something about that cloth and their cut that seems like a good combination.
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Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:30 pm

A Roman colleague of mine suggested Albertelli as an unknown gem in the shirtmaking world. Not as well known as Battistoni, but supposedly better.

His own shirts from them look spectacular.
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Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:34 pm

Any contact information on Albertelli? I will be in Rome next month.
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Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:18 am

tteplitzmd wrote:Any contact information on Albertelli? I will be in Rome next month.
http://www.flanellagrigia.com/english.html

These three posts contain all I know about Albertelli.
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Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:36 am

dopey wrote:
tteplitzmd wrote:Any contact information on Albertelli? I will be in Rome next month.
http://www.flanellagrigia.com/english.html

These three posts contain all I know about Albertelli.
I'll ask him, and post details tomorrow.
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Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:51 am

dopey wrote:http://www.flanellagrigia.com/english.html

These three posts contain all I know about Albertelli.
Dopey, this is a "wrong" Albertelli.

Piero Albertelli sold both his shop and his name... then opened a new shop just a stone's throw away! -- naming it "La Camiceria di Piero".

Here is a photo of the new ("right") shop: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bjSrV5IgOT0/S ... 00/PA3.JPG

Maestro Albertelli himself: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bjSrV5IgOT0/S ... 00/PA2.JPG

Alberto Merola (owner of Merola Gloves, and very knowledgeable in all things sartorial) considers him to be the best (but definitely not the most affordable!) shirtmaker in Rome... so I'm very tempted to try myself. Not sure that anyone in the shop speaks English, though -- when I was there, Merola translated everything.

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Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:58 am

tteplitzmd wrote:Any contact information on Albertelli? I will be in Rome next month.
Terry, some contact details I found by googling:

La Camiceria di Piero (Via di Pallacorda 1; 39-06-689-2401)

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Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:21 pm

Gentlemen

There are as many shirtmakers in Roma as there are churches and soccer players. Please let's try to keep comments here to personal experience. Information passed third and fourth hand is worthless.

If you are a client of a shirtmaker and, motivated by the spirit of generosity, would like to share your experiences, please do so.

Thanks

Michael
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Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:49 pm

. . . and remember, this is not the "recommend only a shirtmaker in Rome" thread. Suggestions on anything you think may be interesting in the spirit of the London Lounge's sensibilities would be appreciated.
tteplitzmd

Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:32 pm

In that regard, let me update my posting from three years ago on Vittorio Lemmi, in Perugia. The quality of the work was quite good, and the prices very favorable for Bonfanti cloths. The problem is the adjustments became cumbersome long distance (shorter sleeves, different collar, taking in the sides), although the fitting on the trial shirt wasn't bad for a first iteration. Turn around time was too long, and communications a problem. (turnover in the workshop contributed to that problem)

Although I will be back in Perugia in a few weeks, I think I will pass on getting the pattern adjusted and getting more shirts. A wise man told me a few years ago that many of the Italian shirtmakers are not particularly keen on taking on U.S. customers. I think it reflects the mutual frustrations in tweaking a product that almost certainly requires tweaking over time. Were I to be in Perugia for a longer time and more frequently, I wouldn't hesitate to get the pattern perfected, but since I already hit a home run with a Florentine competitor, I think I will opt to quit while I'm ahead. That said, with multiple visits to Florence I am very happy with that outcome.
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Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:11 am

Hello, Dopey,
I trained under a brilliant Maestro in Rome for the last two years. The next time you are in Rome and you are looking to have a suit made up by a wonderful man and a perfect Maestro of Italian Sarto I suggest you visit Maestro Luigi Gallo on Via Flavia. He was trained under Litrico and is the president of the European Chamber of High Tailoring. Perro deve imparare Italiano perque lui non parla Englese, ma e' un proprio sarto e un grande Maestro (you will need to learn a little italian because he doesnt speak any english.
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Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:19 pm

Thank you, Eric. I will be returning to Rome at the end of the week to see Caraceni and will try to drop in to see M.Gallo.
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Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:06 pm

I have also had a chance to examine the shoes made by the in-house maker at Ripense in Roma (Bocache & Saloucci). Quality is quite good - comparable to Scafora, and the price is right at 1,000 euros. If you have the time, a stop could be worthwhile.
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:14 am

Did you find the time to visit my old Maestro? How was Rome?
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:05 am

If you are interested in early Christian history in Rome may I suggest.
Rome: the Early Church: a Pilgrim's Guide
Howard Nelson, The Confraternity of Pilgrims to Rome, 2011, 60 pp, 1 map, ISBN 978-0-9568499-9-8.
It is written for the pilgrim who has arrived in Rome and has allowed him or herself enough time to explore a little of its early Christian history. The information about each church is written from a historical perspective and although it gives some architectural and artistic detail its heart is in the history and archaeology of the church.
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