English suts give backache - according to Tom Ford

"The brute covers himself, the rich man and the fop adorn themselves, the elegant man dresses!"

-Honore de Balzac

storeynicholas

Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 am

Costi wrote:
santy567 wrote: I read somewhere that tom ford was awarded best dressed man in the world a couple years back, i wonder how the others were dressed that year.
Hehe! :lol:
Sadly, they couldn't compete as they all stayed home with pains in their necks lfrom listening to him.... :P
NJS
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Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:14 pm

Unfortunately we must brace ourselves for more of the same. Tom Ford has dressed Daniel Craig in the new Bond movie and there is an enourmous new store about to open on Oxford Street in London...
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Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:43 pm

sartorius wrote:Unfortunately we must brace ourselves for more of the same. Tom Ford has dressed Daniel Craig in the new Bond movie and there is an enourmous new store about to open on Oxford Street in London...


I thought it was Dunhill?

Best Regards,

Cufflink79
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Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:43 am

all i want for Christmas is my tom ford suit, which comes on a tom ford box, delivered by a tom ford truck.

The suit must specify not made in England, otherwise is not good for the vertebral column.

that's good service, i could order a pizza while i wait for the bloody suit.
yialabis

Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:40 am

Dear Audi S5 TC ,

welcome to the lounge ,
With all the respect I would just like to say that all those high words (as in high end, high priced etc...) have nothing to do with the meanings of this lounge, the art of dressing or the means of elegance. The high words unfortunately seem to promote more the high image of those you have criticized in your post. I believe we find meaning in the values that LL serves -which are primarily the "art" of being modest and self aware and this art can not be reached by striving towards the HIGH ENDS and reputations.

Kind regards
Vassilis
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Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:20 am

Very sad.

Ian Fleming created James Bond just as the United Kingdom was adopting socialism, giving up its empire, and entering a period of prolonged economic decline. Bond was, in part, a reaction to this--a showcase of everything that was best about British design and manufacture. The literary Bond ate English breakfasts and bitter marmalade and drank more scotch than vodka. His shirts were made in Jermyn Street, his suits in Savile Row. He drove a supercharged Bentley and smoked Dunhill cigarettes.

Now that London is about to replace New York as the Financial Center of the Universe, the IRA has disarmed, and the British economy consistently outshines that of the Continent, perhaps it no longer matters.

But I still can't help but think that poor Fleming is spinning in his grave to see what they have done to his creation!
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Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:07 pm

carl browne wrote: His shirts were made in Jermyn Street, his suits in Savile Row.
Nope. No information is given as to the makers of the literary Bond's shirts and ties, although in Kingsley Amis' near-contemporaneous James Bond Dossier, Amis evaluates the character and states that Bond dresses well, but his suits "never saw Savile Row."
He [...] smoked Dunhill cigarettes.
Nope. Morlands of Grosvenor Street, almost exclusively.
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:23 pm

Readers of the latest edition of the Rake will have seen the Tom Ford article where he repeats the back ache allegation. I assumed that he meant this in some way figuratively when I first saw the Ford/Lagerfeld interview, but the more he comes out with it I guess he really means it (unless, god forbid, he is lying to us). Is there any possible way that one's jacket or suit coat could be the cause of back ache?

It's no secret that TF is an A&S customer. I suppose he wears his own brand these days and isn't worried about A&S getting wind of this and showing him the door. Or maybe they'd choose to overlook it and take his money anyway.
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:41 pm

Considering the differences between SR clothes and the rags TF needs to sell, it's a wonder he only feels the pain in his back... I suspect it's only the beginning!
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:58 pm

Costi, please. :(

A long time ago, in the early 1900s, some person who thought that he dressed in 'classic style' from the 1850s also likely thought that the young men of the new century were wearing... rags. How dare they! Those ignorant fashion victims!

So TF is very expensive stuff. Big deal, so are most of the garments seen here. I have seen TF garments in person, and it is extremely well made RTW. It has a very precise aesthetic, designed to appeal to a very narrow spectrum of men. So it is not for you, but hey - it was never targeted at men like yourself in the first place. And believe it or not, the people who buy TF (or any similar product) are not going to want to dress like you, even if they had the choice, even if they were so 'informed' as to the historical appropriateness or the technical reasons.

There is enough space in the world for all of us - those who prefer the latest fashions, those who dress in a manner they consider classic style. Those who prefer lighter cloths, and those who prefer heavier cloths. Yes, fashion does have its excesses, but if the barriers, the boundaries are not pushed by designers like TF and Lagerfeld, then little things here and there are never invented/designed, and never become incorporated into what we consider 'eternal style'.

After all, once upon a time, were things which we take for granted today (such as cuff buttons) not considered rather... outre?

Clothes are after all a reflection of our personality, and how boring would it be if we were all... alike, forever unchanging?
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:34 pm

carl browne wrote: Now that London is about to replace New York as the Financial Center of the Universe, the IRA has disarmed, and the British economy consistently outshines that of the Continent, perhaps it no longer matters.
Oh, what a difference a year and a half can make...

dE
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:23 am

Des Esseintes wrote:
carl browne wrote: Now that London is about to replace New York as the Financial Center of the Universe, the IRA has disarmed, and the British economy consistently outshines that of the Continent, perhaps it no longer matters.
Oh, what a difference a year and a half can make...

dE
Hubris can really be a pain, no?
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:33 am

This evening I saw someone in a Tom Ford suit. First time I have seen one in the wild. His date was wearing a gold Lamé suit. Both had no ties and shirts undone two or three buttons, just like they were supposed to. It was very cute.
storeynicholas

Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:47 am

rjman wrote:
carl browne wrote: His shirts were made in Jermyn Street, his suits in Savile Row.
Nope. No information is given as to the makers of the literary Bond's shirts and ties, although in Kingsley Amis' near-contemporaneous James Bond Dossier, Amis evaluates the character and states that Bond dresses well, but his suits "never saw Savile Row."
He [...] smoked Dunhill cigarettes.
Nope. Morlands of Grosvenor Street, almost exclusively.

The Savile Row-Jermyn Street dressed Bond derives from the director of the first films, Terence Young, who groomed the rough-diamond Connery and introduced him to his tailor and shirtmakers and shoemakers and, overall, did such a good job that many of us older types automatically think of Connery as Bond.

As for Tom Ford: what's his name doing in the LL? I spy strangers. :shock:
NJS
storeynicholas

Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:49 am

storeynicholas wrote:
rjman wrote:
carl browne wrote: His shirts were made in Jermyn Street, his suits in Savile Row.
Nope. No information is given as to the makers of the literary Bond's shirts and ties, although in Kingsley Amis' near-contemporaneous James Bond Dossier, Amis evaluates the character and states that Bond dresses well, but his suits "never saw Savile Row."
He [...] smoked Dunhill cigarettes.
Nope. Morlands of Grosvenor Street, almost exclusively.

The Savile Row-Jermyn Street dressed Bond derives from the director of the first films, Terence Young, who groomed the rough-diamond Connery and introduced him to his tailor and shirtmakers and shoemakers and, overall, did such a good job that many of us older types automatically think of Connery as Bond. On the cigarette front: JB smoked Chesterfields in the USA but the best cigarette he ever smoked was - no - you'll have to wait.

As for Tom Ford: what's his name doing in the LL? I spy strangers. :shock:
NJS
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