Ties - T&A??

[madz]

Hi, I am thinking of purchasing some ties because of time/location etc I need to order over the internet and have been thinking of some t&a from here http://store.turnbullandasser.co.uk/Tie ... gundy.html

Can anyone tell me if they are of good quality. I like my ties to be heavey and good quality and texture and not lightweight and thin.

Many thanks

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[storeynicholas]

Also have a look at Emma Willis's website and, I know that some do not agree, but New & Lingwood and Budd (Budd - no website) have some ties in the wonderful ancient madder dyes.
NJS

[Concordia]

T&A are OK. Try also grenadines from www.samhober.com , among others.

[smoothjazzone]

For what its worth, T&A grenadines are way better than Sam Hober. Still better ones are available at Domenico Spano at Saks.

[dopey]

For what its worth, T&A grenadines are way better than Sam Hober. Still better ones are available at Domenico Spano at Saks.

How so? I suppose I could answer for myself as I have a T&A grenadine somewhere, still in its plastic sleeve, if only I remember where. In the meantime, how do the different grenadines earn your ranking?

[storeynicholas]

I have just visited the hober website and, assuming that the pictures are true to the wares, they look very good to me.
NJS

[palmer]

Dear madz:

I've worn T&A ties for years, and their quality is fine. Indeed, I still wear some that are more than 10 years old.

T&A ties are typically quite heavy and have a nice texture. A caveat is that, if anything, T&A ties recently have become too heavy. Even a basic four in hand knot on my three newest ties is very large, and I've found it can take several tries to achieve a result that looks nice.

Good luck.

Best regards,

[dopey]

Dear madz:

I've worn T&A ties for years, and their quality is fine. Indeed, I still wear some that are more than 10 years old.

T&A ties are typically quite heavy and have a nice texture. A caveat is that, if anything, T&A ties recently have become too heavy. Even a basic four in hand knot on my three newest ties is very large, and I've found it can take several tries to achieve a result that looks nice.

Good luck.

Best regards,

Your observation on the width of T&A ties is a good one (really, the thickness). From now on, you need to test before buying. I have one that I like very much, but it is a trick to make sure it ties a reasonably sized knot. If I am not careful, I feel like I have a grapefruit hanging from my collar.

[palmer]

Dear Dopey:

Thank you very much for the kind message. In light of our shared experience with T&A, whose ties do you favor now?

I ask because T&A isn't the only one of my old standbys to annoy me recently. The width -- or perhaps more accurately the relative lack of tapering from one end to the other -- of my two newest from Charvet is such that they tie a knot that's too long for my eye. (BTW, I take your point about test driving the ties, but these two were gifts.) I've also had gripes with Borrelli's latest offerings.

Lest the tone of this message be entirely unpleasant, I've recently had positive experiences with Dege, RL Purple Label, and Hermes. Your -- or anyone else's thoughts -- on these or others are more than welcome.

Thank you once more.

Best regards,

[Concordia]

I ordered one bespoke tie from Dege. Price was right, the silk is lovely, and they got the dimensions OK. But the lining was too thin, and the resulting knot is flimsy-looking. But you might prefer different knots or different looks.

[dopey]

I can't really answer about a favorite brand - there are so many variables. I wear ties from T&A, Pucci, Nicky, J.Press, Hober and Charvet with the greatest frequency, though they are not listed in any particular order. Of the brands I listed, I have only noticed variability among T&A (only recently) and Nicky. My favorite and most worn tie, though is a silk knit from Banana Republic that is nearly a dozen years old. Second is probably a Polo tie, of the same general age, in a striped near-grenadine (slightly tighter weave). But those are the only ties from those brands that are in my rotation.

[dopey]

I ordered one bespoke tie from Dege. Price was right, the silk is lovely, and they got the dimensions OK. But the lining was too thin, and the resulting knot is flimsy-looking. But you might prefer different knots or different looks.

How did you measure the delivery time - quarters, years, decades?

[palmer]

Dear Concordia and Dopey:

Thank you for your replies.

Concodia, for what it's worth, my first experience with Dege was the same as yours. By choosing woven silk in a subsequent order, and my orders after that, I've achieved nice results. I suppose that the thicker silk counterbalances the thinner lining.

Thanks again.

Best regards,

[Concordia]

I ordered one bespoke tie from Dege. Price was right, the silk is lovely, and they got the dimensions OK. But the lining was too thin, and the resulting knot is flimsy-looking. But you might prefer different knots or different looks.

How did you measure the delivery time - quarters, years, decades?

Came with my last shirts.

In less than one year. Obviously, you're being singled out.

[madz]

Gentlemen,

many thanks for your kind replies and thoughts. Just what I was looking for.

kind regards