Black tie questions

[dopey]

Dopey, the book The Elegant Man has a photo of an English gent wearing a true sash cummerbund.

Thanks. If you are referring to the Villarosa book, I don't have it, although I have borrowed it from the library. I will have another look.

[Topper]

There are no belt loops on dress trousers. Belts do no come into the equation.

http://www.answers.com/topic/india-military-06-jpg

I don't see any belt loops.

The photo shows military dress "uniform" not civilian " dress code" hence the weariing of belts is standard in Army for carrying items, waterbottles, pistols, bayonets e.t.c. but this differs from civilain to dress code.

I wouldn't use this photo to describe dress code, merely to indicate use of a sash/cummerbund/cummerband in a certain context.

As mentioned this is where the cummerbund came from ( Hindi kamarband, from Persian : kamar, waist + band) and how is is now still used by a specific military area. In the realms fo dress code for black-tie (semi-formal) wear it would not be worn with belts.

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Doug

[dopey]

Dopey, the book The Elegant Man has a photo of an English gent wearing a true sash cummerbund.

I looked at it today. I think you are referring to the picture of the man in the yellow Spencer jacket. The text seems to indicate that he is wearing a sash cummerbund rather than a buckled one, but the language is a bit vague and there is really no way to tell from the picture. I suppose that means there is really nothing to it. Just a few wraps around the waist and tie it off. Perhaps I will try having one made up.