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Costi
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Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:33 pm

Cantabrigian wrote: is it the case that when the elastic gives out the useful life of the pants has come to an end?
I should think that is up to the quality of the elastic band. Or that of the trousers!? :roll:

I never did have to replace an elastic band so far, but then I don't wear any particular pair of trousers so intensively. What I do is take out the elastic when I dry clean (or wash, if linen) the trousers.
It is a very comfortable and neat-looking way to keep your trousers up without a belt or braces. Indeed, unlike tabs, the elastic band gives and extra degree of "real time" adjustability.
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Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:19 pm

Costi wrote: What I do is take out the elastic when I dry clean (or wash, if linen) the trousers.
I was under the impression that the elastic was sewn in place in the back at the middle of the waistband which lead me to believe that it would be difficult to replace without taking apart the 'tunnel' of fabric.

But it sounds as though the elastic is not sewn in at all but rather kept in place by being fastened to the buttons on the sides.

Has anyone seen such a setup with the tunnel and elastic on the inside so that all that would be seen is the clean line of the waistband itself?
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Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:11 am

The anchoring may perhaps vary with the maker. Mine are sewn on, about 1.5 inches forward of the back split in the waistband (the tunnel is pieced at the split on mine). I suspect this is intended to permit later alterations. An unsewn elastic could easily be altered, but in that construction the tunnel would have to be completely removed and reattached after the trousers were altered.

With modern materials it should be possible to get an elastic that will last a long time--decades, at least (it's pretty densely woven on mine). I haven't had any long enought to wear out the elastic, but if it happened, I'd think it could be replaced--open the tunnel at the waistband edge, rip the old stitching anchoring the elastic, remove the finish-cloth tip with the button hole, reattach it to the new elastic, stitch down the anchor, re-close the tunnel.

Haven't ever seen an internally mounted version. I'd thnk you'd want the elastic to go outside the interlining of the waistband at least, so that it compressed the waistband to your waist when you bend, rather than pulling it to you via the finish cloth tunnel only, which would risk gapping and possible tearing. That construction would require a wide enough waistband to accommodate vertical slits for the elastic to emerge to the interior (kind of like the tabs on Gurkha shorts). Presumably you'd want the tips covered in a waistband lining cloth rather than the finish cloth, and discus-shaped brace buttons to attach to, for comfort. One drawback of this version, of course, would be that you'd have to open your trousers when you wanted to adjust the tension to a different button. Depending on your needs, that might not be a serious drawback, given the cleaner exterior finish. Does this sound feasible, tailors?
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Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:18 am

Cantabrigian wrote: the elastic is not sewn in at all but rather kept in place by being fastened to the buttons on the sides.
Precisely so.
Cantabrigian wrote: Has anyone seen such a setup with the tunnel and elastic on the inside so that all that would be seen is the clean line of the waistband itself?
Wouldn't that be an uncomfortable bunch of cloth and buttons pressing against one's back?
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Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:34 pm

Costi wrote:
Cantabrigian wrote: Has anyone seen such a setup with the tunnel and elastic on the inside so that all that would be seen is the clean line of the waistband itself?
Wouldn't that be an uncomfortable bunch of cloth and buttons pressing against one's back?
Maybe... On the face of it, I'm not sure it would be much more uncomfortable.

Though I think that Couch has a very good point about the additional strain that would be put on the tunnel of cloth and the hassle of trying to adjust the waistband size via the buttons.
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Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:56 pm

Gentlemen, would just like to update you on the trousers I ordered from Mr Harward.

Last Wednesday I was invited in for a fitting at his Old Hall Street premises. Even though they weren't sewn up properly they felt so good on. I have to say I was a little concerned that the measurements (especially the waist) wouldn't be so precise. Don't ask me why, it may be to do with the speed he measured me up. - I need not of worried everything was spot on!

On Friday I picked up the finished trousers and can't tell you how pleased I am with the overall result! What can I say..... they are just so comfortable, you can just tell they have that made to measure quality about them. They are exactly what I envisaged.

Couch, you are quite right, I most definitely have to order a couple more pairs from Mr Harward before he retires.

Incidently, I eventually received a reply from the webmaster at DAKS. He told me that they do still make this type off trouser (in just a few colours - slate gray being one of them). Price?? Yes you've guessed it £125!!
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