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When to wear a tweed cap

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:29 pm
by Guest
I read that many distinguished LL members find the semiotics of a tweed cap a bit complex, cf. http://thelondonlounge.net/gl/forum/vie ... =alden+cap
You can wear it when you go hunting in Scotland. You can wear it in the dark streets of London. You can wear it when you drive the Aston Martin. You can wear it as a hiphop star. I'm paralyzed too.

Is it beyond rules?

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:46 am
by Guest
I wear a tweed cap all the time. Great for travel. Weather protection. A very stylish and inexpensive accessory as well.

Make sure that you buy a style and shape which fits your face well.

Otherwise, put it on and forget it. And don't wear it backwards.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:42 pm
by Guest
I try to classify soft flat caps. Please, help.

This is a cap. It's from England:
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This is a ... sixpence? Originally, it came from Ireland?
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Heard about "a 8-piece" - an American invention? Do you have a photo?

Photos: Lock & Hatters

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:26 pm
by Guest
I know little about headress and wear it even less. But I can tell you, OP, that the two photographs you've posted are both of "caps". The top, I've heard called a "walker's cap"; the second, of eight-piece construction, I've heard called a "newsboy's cap".

But I hope that Loungers more knowledgeable than I will respond to the questions.

RWS

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:57 pm
by Guest
Anonymous wrote:I know little about headress and wear it even less. But I can tell you, OP, that the two photographs you've posted are both of "caps". The top, I've heard called a "walker's cap"; the second, of eight-piece construction, I've heard called a "newsboy's cap".

But I hope that Loungers more knowledgeable than I will respond to the questions.

RWS
I asked an old hatter in Copenhagen on the matter. He differs between "a cap", "a sixpence" and "an 8-piece". The latter he also called "a newsboy". Surprisingly, he said that a sixpence has more room that an 8-piece. I thought it was the opposite.

G.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:36 pm
by Guest
Does anyone go to the trouble of matching cap to jacket (or suit), or is the opposite approach preferred?

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:37 pm
by Guest
I ordered five hats made from a length of tweed from this guy. He did a nice job.
He only makes 8 panel hats, which he, also, calls "newsboys".
For outstanding workmanship and infinite variety of design possibilities, try David Rodriguez.

dopey

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:02 pm
by Guest
You guys are killing me with the endless terminology discussions.

Please.

Try on the cap and if it looks good, buy it. Look in the mirror and make a judgement. Whatever the damn thing is called.

The LL has been taking an odd course recently immersing itself in minutiae, 19th century dress and sartorial pronouncements on what can, and cannot, be called elegant.

Think for yourself.

And stop with the matching. What's the matter with you?!

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:39 pm
by Guest
Anonymous wrote:You guys are killing me with the endless terminology discussions.

Please.

Try on the cap and if it looks good, buy it. Look in the mirror and make a judgement. Whatever the damn thing is called.

The LL has been taking an odd course recently immersing itself in minutiae, 19th century dress and sartorial pronouncements on what can, and cannot, be called elegant.

Think for yourself.

And stop with the matching. What's the matter with you?!
I think you are mistaking this website for the entire universe.
I am fully capable of making a judgment about how something looks on me by looking in the mirror. I do that without posting about it. The LL is a place to discuss details that are not readily apparent from other sources or where it is most efficient to ask a collection of people who are more likely to know the answer. It is a pipeline to the expertise, some real some imagined, of a whole lot of people interested in the same things as me. Only an idiot (but not a dope) would rely on the advice of strangers about what looks good on him or confuse a request for information as anything more than what it is.

dopey

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:42 am
by Guest
Well put, Dopey. Although I regularly ask advice of strangers. I ask the salesman . The tailor The girlfriend, too My friends here on LL. It's important to me to know that I am dressed well and that people agree with me. I do depend on the tailor alot because he is the real expert with long experience in the classics and with a trained eye and I trust his judgement. There's nothing wrong with that, at all, IMO, and it's good to know the right terminology too when discussing with people. I don't see what's the problem.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:51 pm
by Guest
A cloth cap is a good accessory; it looks good on most people and is easier to get used to wearing as opposed to a fedora.

They needn't be tweed. They need't be expensive.

I just bought a corduroy cap at H&M for $8. It looks fine; sort of Greek fisherman style but not exactly, not that ethnic looking.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:02 pm
by Guest
I love the idea of matching a flat cap to one's suit. I have never seen that in Ireland. The flat caps I've seen here are battered from years of wear & are tossed on the bar beside a pint and a newspaper.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:36 pm
by Guest
...but ,sadly, no longer beside a tobacco pouch and an ashtray in a blue fug of pipe smoke..... have the Irish in their pubs really buckled under to the stalinist smoking ban? I find it extraordinary if they have not found a way around it or ignored it with some eloquent expression of disgust....
NJS

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:39 pm
by Guest
Anonymous wrote:You guys are killing me with the endless terminology discussions. Isn't this, at least in part, what the forum is about? If you do not agree, what do you look for here?
NJS

Please.

Try on the cap and if it looks good, buy it. Look in the mirror and make a judgement. Whatever the damn thing is called.

The LL has been taking an odd course recently immersing itself in minutiae, 19th century dress and sartorial pronouncements on what can, and cannot, be called elegant.

Think for yourself.

And stop with the matching. What's the matter with you?!