The London Lounge

We now face the issue every business day following release of Manton's book.

Will this benediction to not dimple change how you arrange your tie?

No, I like the way the dimple adds more texture to it, especially on printed ties.

I do not dimple my ties. Never have, never will.

I always dimple them...looks strange without a dimple to me.

It depends. I do not like anything to be to contrived, so I am not a huge fan of the single perfect dimple. It always looks like the tie is awfully tight that way. I do like it when the tie gets subtle little pleats at the top, but I can't really repeat that every time. Generally, I go with my mood that morning or evening.

I believe that somebody, herein, mentioned once that the President of Charvet went without a dimple. There was something so declaritive and absolute about that for me that converted me to sans-dimple.

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My fingers are programmed to make a dimple. When there is a bug in the program, I let it be and do not troubleshoot. I know I liked them once, hence the programming. I probably still like them, but I don’t much care or give it any thought.

I am striving for multiple dimples.

What if "to dimple or not to dimple" could be expressed as a function of (at least):

(tie width x tie softness) / (tie thickness x tie pattern intensity x shirt collar width x sobriety).

A somewhat wider but thin tie, with small, relatively widely spaced dots without much contrast, worn with a narrow shirt collar on a casual occasion might look better, in my view, with a dimple - which would give it some point of interest, as well as help the knot fit better between the leaves of the collar and give the tie width excess somewhere to go. On the contrary, a narrower, stiff tie with a strong pattern (not to take into account any other factors) would probably look better without one. What do you think, could such an approach work, or is it too "scientific" to relate to matters of taste and style?

Some ties simply make into such beautiful knots that the dimple would only detract from their beauty:

Costi

Anonymous wrote:What if "to dimple or not to dimple" could be expressed as a function of (at least):

(tie width x tie softness) / (tie thickness x tie pattern intensity x shirt collar width x sobriety).

A somewhat wider but thin tie, with small, relatively widely spaced dots without much contrast, worn with a narrow shirt collar on a casual occasion might look better, in my view, with a dimple - which would give it some point of interest, as well as help the knot fit better between the leaves of the collar and give the tie width excess somewhere to go. On the contrary, a narrower, stiff tie with a strong pattern (not to take into account any other factors) would probably look better without one. What do you think, could such an approach work, or is it too "scientific" to relate to matters of taste and style?

Some ties simply make into such beautiful knots that the dimple would only detract from their beauty:

Costi

That outfit is way too sober and elegant. It makes one look responsible. If I wore clothes like that, my wife would start suspecting my charade of ineptitude and expect more.

Isn't it amazing that such a simple colour scheme can be so elegant and eyecatching at the same time.

Bravo!!

Anonymous wrote:What if "to dimple or not to dimple" could be expressed as a function of (at least):

(tie width x tie softness) / (tie thickness x tie pattern intensity x shirt collar width x sobriety).

A somewhat wider but thin tie, with small, relatively widely spaced dots without much contrast, worn with a narrow shirt collar on a casual occasion might look better, in my view, with a dimple - which would give it some point of interest, as well as help the knot fit better between the leaves of the collar and give the tie width excess somewhere to go. On the contrary, a narrower, stiff tie with a strong pattern (not to take into account any other factors) would probably look better without one. What do you think, could such an approach work, or is it too "scientific" to relate to matters of taste and style?

Some ties simply make into such beautiful knots that the dimple would only detract from their beauty:

Costi

That outfit is way too sober and elegant. It makes one look responsible. If I wore clothes like that, my wife would start suspecting my charade of ineptitude and expect more.

Isn't it amazing that such a simple colour scheme can be so elegant and eyecatching at the same time.

Can you share who is the supplier of the fabric?


Bravo!!

Well, you had better ask Mr. Alden, whose picture of the LL Charvet tie I thought best illustrated the concept of "too beautiful to dimple". He gave a beautiful tie an ideal context (shirt, suit), which is what produces that "Bravo!" effect.
I thought I was quoting "from the Bible" and deemed it superfluous to mention the source, but it is an even greater compliment for our host that, free from any positive bias incurred by recognizing the picture and its subject, you were so honestly impressed with the harmony of the ensamble (true ellegance) and not just with the tie, which was the focus of my post.
It also proves my theory that, hard though it may be to define and analize, as well as subjective and personal as it is, elegance remains a universally recognizable objective reality which anyone of good faith will immediately acknowledge upon seeing. And that comes to justify the LL's existence and its members' endeavour to cultivate elegance as being a true value, and not just a matter of someone's taste.

Costi

Is that our Alden without a Dimple?!

Excuse my ignorance but what is a dimple? Could somebody post a photo of a man wearing a dimple in this tie.

Anonymous wrote:Excuse my ignorance but what is a dimple? Could somebody post a photo of a man wearing a dimple in this tie.