jeeves and wooster - waistcoats

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Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:53 pm

Having just seen an episode on DVD, I've a question:

When Bertie wears morning dress, he wears a dark waistcoat with what appears to be a white under-waistcoat. Is that correct? Certainly a two-colour effect is produced. Does anyone know anything more?
Guest

Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:43 pm

the under-vest appearance is achieved by button-on white (marcella) tabs underneath the dark waistcoat 'V'. The PoW wore such a thing to his wedding to the former Mrs P-B.
Nicholas.
Guest

Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:55 pm

The white under-piece is called a "slip". Anthony Jordan posted some very nice photos of one of his, which included the reverse side showing how the lip attaches.
dopey
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Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:21 pm

Thanks, does the same principle apply for db waistcoats?
Guest

Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:18 pm

You called?

http://uk.geocities.com/anthony_hugh_jo ... tcoat.html

I believe that it is also done with double-breasted waistcoats, but I haven't seen this style recently. A correspondent on another forum was having difficulty getting his quite right. I think he ws goign to try Gieves and Hawkes to help. I've also heard that Ede and Ravenscroft, I think, will make these, for £65 a pair.
Guest

Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:20 pm

Anonymous wrote:You called?

http://uk.geocities.com/anthony_hugh_jo ... tcoat.html

I believe that it is also done with double-breasted waistcoats, but I haven't seen this style recently. A correspondent on another forum was having difficulty getting his quite right. I think he ws goign to try Gieves and Hawkes to help. I've also heard that Ede and Ravenscroft, I think, will make these, for £65 a pair.
And, to turn this into English,

"I think he wAs goiNG to try Gieves and Hawkes FOR help "
Guest

Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:07 pm

Thanks for the replies.

The Prince of Wales wore a db waistcoat with such a lining when he married CPB, but I'm not sure if the construction above would achieve the same result.
Guest

Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:18 pm

Eh? It's exactly this.
Guest

Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:20 am

Look at the picture of the POW again, and look at which way round the slip fastens; It seems to fasten right side over left, and then the waistcoat above it also fastens right over left. So the slip can't be attached to a significant part of the left-hand side of the waistcoat, can it? So... how can the slip fasten if it isn't buttoned along the length of the inside of the waistcoat, as in the sb version?
Guest

Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:42 pm

I have seen the photo again the tabs or slips form a V around the V of the waistcoat. It would look ridiculous if one of them extended right down the top w/c lapel. This picture reminds me of the front of Private Eye shortly after the wedding: thought balloon from PoW: 'Married at last!' and balloon from HMQ 'Yes - and to each other!'
NJS
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