Rubinacci pricing question

[Guest]

Savile Row tailors are the most self promotional in the world. The amount they spend on informing everyone of their next US tour must be impressive.

Funny, Rubinacci is the only outfit that has solicited my new business.

[Guest]

Savile Row tailors are the most self promotional in the world. The amount they spend on informing everyone of their next US tour must be impressive.

Really? I am thankful if I get a single announcement from either of my tailors.

Would you rather they styed at home without customers?

[Guest]

Savile Row tailors are the most self promotional in the world. The amount they spend on informing everyone of their next US tour must be impressive.

Really? I am thankful if I get a single announcement from either of my tailors.

Would you rather they stayed at home without customers?

[Guest]

One continues to wonder about the extreme virulence of one seemingly deranged poster. Did you receive a suit that did not fit, or are you simply so grandiose that you believe yourself to be the arbiter of bespoke business practices worldwide?

[Guest]

Horses for courses...

The literature when not self aggrandizing is very good. But isn't the message rather, ..."Bijan-like?"

I assume this is a question in response to my post, so I might as well attempt to answer it, although there really are two parts to the answer.

First, my experience with Bijan is limited to walking by his Beverly hills store and occasionally seeing his perfume ads in magazines, so I am no expert. That being said, he has always struck me as one of those guys who likes to put up pictures of himself with famous clients on the wall. I find this embarrassing for anybody who does it, but know that it happens in some of the most respected Italian tailor shops like Caraceni Roma and also, I believe, in Hong Kong. It most assuredly does not at Rubinacci. The only other thing I can think of WRT Bijan is the Rolls outside of the shop. While I wish that Rubinacci had such a luxurious car, my experiences with him have been four people slightly stuffed into a SmartCar occasionally stalling on the streets of Naples. So, my perception is that the two operations could not be more different. With all due respect, I think that your impression has been an incorrect one.

Second, and more importantly, the image or message of my tailor and what being his client says about me does not, for me, enter into the equation. I do not like Bijan's style and look, and as such I would not choose him as a tailor/stylist. If his were my preferred style, I believe that I would. I enjoy Mariano's counsel and think that you would probably need to search for a good long time to find somebody as knowledgeable about fabric as he and with as good of taste as he has. This may not be important to everybody, but I enjoy the good advice and the able pair of eyes. I do not want to be a designer or collaborator. I want to be a client happy with the product he has ordered, and I am.

Matt

[Guest]

Matt,

Having trained in Beverly Hills and San Francisco, I feel entitled to opine that only in Southern California "you are what you drive." Any clear headed Neapolitan would do well to keep the Rolls Royce (or Maserati quattroporte) safely in Lugano.

Now, I have read the literature referenced in these posts. It is more self congratulatory than a Bijan ad. It easily exceeds the name dropping and "trophy" photos of any shop I've seen. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but the discretion you allude to is simply not there.
Seems to me you're being asked to buy a lifestyle. That's fairly low brow marketing in my opinion. Know your customer, or in this case, at least know the market you want to reach, price yourself accordingly, and so on. If you, the customer, value the relationship and the finished work though, that's swell. Your endorsement of the business is much more helpful and persuasive to me than the promo literature.

There is clearly interest in this topic begun with an anonymous post. I for one, think the anonymous posting should be eliminated, and have posted to that effect in the past.

Terry Teplitz

[Guest]

Why is everybody picking on Matts tailor and now comparing him to Bijan? That's not fair.

[Guest]

. . . . I for one, think the anonymous posting should be eliminated . . . .
Terry Teplitz

Dear Terry and others,

Michael Alden has asked that we Loungers "sign" our posts in this section, and I note that most of the regulars do so. That goes far toward removing the pettiness to which this section might otherwise be subject.

Yours,

RWS

[Guest]

. . . . I for one, think the anonymous posting should be eliminated . . . .
Terry Teplitz

That goes far toward removing the pettiness to which this section might otherwise be subject.

Yours,

RWS

This is the first idea in this thread which seems worth pursuing to me.
I fully understand the good intentions with which the Anonymous section was created, however we cannot but take note of how the drawbacks of abuse overwhelm the benefits to shy posters. The London Lounge has developed a London Closet. And closets tend to fill with undesirable articles that would otherwise not find a place in the well-lit lounge.

[Guest]

. . . . I for one, think the anonymous posting should be eliminated . . . .
Terry Teplitz

That goes far toward removing the pettiness to which this section might otherwise be subject.

Yours,

RWS

This is the first idea in this thread which seems worth pursuing to me.
I fully understand the good intentions with which the Anonymous section was created, however we cannot but take note of how the drawbacks of abuse overwhelm the benefits to shy posters. The London Lounge has developed a London Closet. And closets tend to fill with undesirable articles that would otherwise not find a place in the well-lit lounge.

Costi

[Guest]

One continues to wonder about the extreme virulence of one seemingly deranged poster. Did you receive a suit that did not fit, or are you simply so grandiose that you believe yourself to be the arbiter of bespoke business practices worldwide?

Which post belongs to the deranger?